[comp.dcom.telecom] Sent-Paid Calls From Coin Phones

forrette@cory.berkeley.edu (Steve Forrette) (01/09/91)

Regarding long distance sent-paid calls from payphones (prepaid with
coins):

I had a talk with my Pacific Bell friend a few weeks ago, and just
this subject came up.  Apparently, the issue is somewhat a technical
one.  For the past few years, each carrier has been given equal access
to the technology to service sent-paid calls.  However, it requires
that the IXC have a point-of-presence at the payphone's CO - no
tandems allowed here.  So, for example, to service sent-paid calls in
California, a point-of-presence would be required at every CO in the
state that has payphones attached to it.  As we all know, there's only
one carrier that has gone to that trouble (they shall remain nameless,
but their initials are AT&T).  But the fact remains, that there is
indeed "equal access" to the technology for each carrier.

One of the reasons that the "other guys" aren't jumping to get into
this segment of the market is that it is a declining one.  However,
this may change soon.  My friend was involved in a trial in Reno of
some new technology that would allow control of the payphone's coin
mechanism through a tandem.  It would possibly require some extra
equipment on the IXC's end, but not a POP in each exchange.  So, in
the future, we may actually have a choice for sent-paid calls.

As for what the Moderator said about having competition in this area
in Chicago, has he actually tried this?  In Northern California at
least, there is a variety of carriers on Bell payphones, but only for
operator-assisted or calling card calls.  Sent-paid calls go over AT&T
always, regardless of the equal access default for that phone.

Another problem with sent-paid, particularly with international calls,
is that the totalizer in the payphones can only handle $3 or so.  For
some international calls, the initial rate may be more than this.  So,
what do you do?  If collect into the coin box after $3, then keep
counting until the initial rate is deposited, what do you do if the
call doesn't complete?  You can't return the first three dollars!
But, the only other option is to allow the call to complete with less
than the initial rate deposited.  Then, if the caller doesn't deposit
the rest, what can the carrier do?  I tried to call a number in Europe
somewhere, and apparently sent-paid international calls are always
handled by the operator - no automated coin collection here.  I was
told that I had to deposit $3, then they would dial the call.  If it
wasn't answered, my $3 would be returned.  If it completed, the other
party would be asked to hold while I deposited the remainder of the
initial rate, at which time the operator would let the call complete.


[Moderator's Note: With a couple of cell phones, calling cards from
Illinois Bell/AT&T and Sprint, and an 800 number attached to my home
line, I've had no need to deposit coins in the slot for years. I have
to admit to only reading instruction cards -- not actually following
the instructions.  When the initial rate is more than the table will
hold then the operators here place the call, and on successful
connection they tell the called party to stand by; split the
connection, collect their money and reconnect the caller.  PAT]