dean@truevision.com (Dean Riddlebarger) (01/15/91)
Last week I posted a request for information on packet level gateways
between Germany and the U.S. Here is the information I've received
thus far. It looks like such connections should be fairly straight-
forward as long as one is proficient enough to deal with the telecom
authorities in Germany [my coworker tells me that it's easy to deal
with said bureaucracy as long as you express a sincere willingness to
use copious amounts of C4 on the local office...:-)].
I suppose that this info has also spawned a need for one followup
item: Is it possible to get information on PC Pursuit [or other such
services] via the net, or must I grope around for an 800 number?
Anyhow, thanks to all who responded.
dean
[Moderator's Note: Information about PC Pursuit can be obtained two
ways: 1-800-TELENET will connect you with their sales and marketing
staff. Or, dial into your local Telenet node then @c pursuit to
connect with the Net Exchange, the informational BBS operated for
subscribers of PC Pursuit. (The BBS is free.) PC Pursuit is $30 per
month and a real bargain. PAT]
[Attachment]
There is indeed dial-in X.25 service in Germany, and their network
does talk to Tymnet. Here's a help file from MCI Mail, which uses
Tymnet for their international access, explaining how to get in from
Germany. I expect you can figure out what parts are about X.25 and
what parts are MCI specific.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
Updated 9/89
GERMANY
DATEX-P
CONTACT FOR SUBSCRIPTION TO PACKET SWITCHING SERVICE:
Datex-P Network
Deutsche Bundespost FTZ T21
Fermeldetechnisches Zentralamt
Beratungsstelle Dateldienste
Post Box 5000
6100 Darmstadt, Federal Republic of Germany
Tel: (49-6151) 83-4641
Telex: (841) 419511 A/B: 419511A FTZ D
Trouble Reporting - Tel: number above from 0800-1700 local time
M-F, Telex: number above, Fax: (49-6151) 834639
DIAL-UP ACCESS VIA PSTN: (300 and 1200 bps access available)
DATEX-P has an extremely complicated fee structure.
All charges in Deutsche Marks (DM) and Pfennig (Pf)
(Note: 100 Pf = 1 DM)
NUI Charge: DM 15 for 1, DM 5 ea. add'l
Telephone call charge: Pf 23 per Call Charge unit*
*The length of a Call Charge unit varies:
Mon-Fri 0800-1800 1 unit = local call 8 minutes.
From outside, dep. on dist. 1 unit = either 60, 20 or 15 sec.
Sat., Sun., Nights & Holidays 1 unit = local call 12 minutes.
From outside, dep. on dist. 1 unit = either 120 or 38.5 sec.
Access Charge: Pf 4 /minute at 300 BPS
Pf 5 /minute at 1200 BPS
Connect Time Charge: Pf 15 /minute
Volume Charge: Pf 1.3/segment
Connection surcharge: Pf 5 /call
PAD Charge: Pf 6 /minute
ACCESS NUMBERS:
CITY PREFIX 300 BPS 1200 BPS 1200/75 BPS
Augsburg 0821 36791 36781 36761
Berlin 030 240001 240081 240061
Bielefeld 0521 59011 59021 59041
Bremen 0421 170131 14291 15077
Dortmund 0231 57011 52011 52081
Duesseldorf 0211 329318 329249 320748
Essen 0201 787051 791021 793003
Frankfurt 069 20281 20291 20201
Hamburg 040 441231 441261 441281
Hannover 0511 326651 327481 327591
Karlsruhe 0721 60241 60381 60581
Koeln 0221 2911 2931 2951
Mannheim 0621 409085 39941 39951
Muenchen 089 228730 228630 228758
Nurenberg 0911 20571 20541 20501
Saarbruecken 0681 810011 810031 810061
Stuttgart 0711 299171 299061 299291
LOG-ON PROCEDURE:
1. Dial telephone number provided by the Deutsche Bundespost
(DBP) for your appropriate speed.
2. Upon receipt of high pitched tone, switch modem to data mode
or place handset into acoustic coupler (depending on your
equipment).
3. Enter a period (.) and a carriage return (CR). DATEX-P will
identify itself with the port address, and will wait for your
call request.
DATEX-P:XXXXXXXXX
You can now change from German network messages to English by
typing: language english (CR)
4. DATEX-P will respond with three carriage returns. Enter the
letters NUI, a space, your user name provided by DBP, and press
RETURN. System will respond with:
DATEX-P: Password
5. Enter the password issued by DBP, and press RETURN. System
will respond with:
DATEX-P: (your user name) active
6. Enter 03104004759 and press RETURN. System will respond with:
DATEX-P: call connected to 3104004759
P3
HOST IS ON LINE
Port: 3.
Please enter your user name:
Password:
7. Now enter your MCI Mail user name and password and press
RETURN after each entry.
8. Once you leave MCI Mail by typing EXIT, type NUI OFF to be
sure that your DATEX-P account is closed.
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From: Manwai Yip <epicb!uunet!uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!bt455s01>
Yes, your associate in Germany may use Germany's Datex-P network to
connect with a dialout modem in the US in order to call your company's
central server.
Your associate will have to contact the Bundepost in Germany and get
what's called a Network User Identification. A NUI is basically a
billing account on Datex-P. Your associate would call a Datex-P
dial-in in Germany and logon to the network with his NUI. Any calls
he makes will be billed to him via the NUI information.
The Datex-P is connected with Tymnet and Telenet in the USA (among
other nets, Telenet and Tymnet being the main ones). Telenet, as you
may know has an out-dial service called PC Pursuit. After getting a
NUI, your associate in Germany can use the dialout modems that are
part of the PC Pursuit service without having to subscribe to PC
Pursuit. He can directly access the modems, and the connect charges
will be billed to his NUI.
For instance, to reach the dialout modem in Houston, TX, your
associate in Germany would access NUA 0311071300024. NUA stands for
Network User Address, and is sort of the "telephone number" on the
nets. 0311071300024 is the NUA for Houston's PC Pursuit dialout modem
(2400 bps).
Tell me which city you need the NUA for and I can get it for you.
That is, if that city has PC Pursuit access.
bt455s01@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu
Dean Riddlebarger Truevision, Inc. [317] 841-0332
dean@truevision.com uunet!epicb!dean