zaft@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Gordon C Zaft) (01/13/91)
In article <15921@accuvax.nwu.edu> cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) writes: >Of the areas I have listed as having (now or later) N0X/N1X prefixes, >215, as far as I can tell, is the first to prepare for such by >removing the 1+ from toll calls within it (i.e., change from 1+7D to >just 7D). I do understand (relying for now on the Digest) that 412 This isn't true. We here in 805-land lost our 1+7D last year (this, despite the fact that a number of calls in the local area go from GTE to Pac*Bell and are toll calls. Gordon Zaft | zaft@suned1.nswses.navy.mil NSWSES, Code 4Y33 | suned1!zaft@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov Port Hueneme, CA 93043-5007 | Phone: (805) 982-0684 FAX: 982-8768
stevem@fai.fai.com (Steven A. Minneman) (01/24/91)
In article <15921@accuvax.nwu.edu> cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) writes: > ...as far as I can tell, is the first to prepare for such by > removing the 1+ from toll calls within it And in the 415 area, we have never had to use 1+7D. [Moderator's Note: Nor did we in Chicago until a few years ago. For however long we dialed seven digits for anything in the old 312 area, and ten digits for anything else. In order to allow the use of prefixes which 'look like area codes' they started using 1+ here. PAT]
cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) (01/28/91)
To correct the Moderator's Note: Yes, in Chicago, you had to start using 1+, but that is for calls to another area code. You still use just 7D for calls within your own area code. What I was saying was that 215 is the first area I know of to change 1 + 7D for long distance WITHIN it -to- 7D for long distance WITHIN it in preparation for N0X/N1X prefixes. Long distance (and local) to another area code from 215 is 1 + NPA + aaaaaa7D, and that is not being changed.
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David Tamkin) (01/29/91)
Steven Minneman wrote in volume 11, issue 66:
SM> In article <15921@accuvax.nwu.edu> cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) writes:
CM> ...as far as I can tell, is the first to prepare for such by
CM> removing the 1+ from toll calls within it
SM> And in the 415 area, we have never had to use 1+7D.
Patrick Townson commented:
PT> [Moderator's Note: Nor did we in Chicago until a few years ago. For
PT> however long we dialed seven digits for anything in the old 312 area,
PT> and ten digits for anything else. In order to allow the use of
PT> prefixes which 'look like area codes' they started using 1+ here. PAT]
We still don't use 1+7D in Chicago. It's 1+10D that we had to start
using in 1982, only for inter-NPA calls, when we were preparing for
N [01] X prefixes.
We've never dialed 1+7D here. Before October 1, 1982, Illinois Bell
tolerated 1+10D; then they started requiring it. Centel recommended
it even before then and has required it since, except for calls to
area code 815, on which Centel accepts 10D for some reason, even
though they insist on 1+10D for calls between 312 and 708.
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[Moderator's Note: In Chicago itself we never dialed 1+7D, but some of
the outlying suburbs did. Antioch comes to mind, but then they could
dial 396-xxxx without the 414 on the front. The rest of us couldn't.
And interestingly enough, Americtech Mobile still allows 10-D calls
between 708 <==> 312 <==> 815, or you can go 1+ 10-D if that is your
pleasure. PAT]