mike%brl-vgr@sri-unix.UUCP (12/21/83)
From: Mike Muuss <mike@brl-vgr> As the moderator of UNIX-WIZARDS and INFO-UNIX, let me clarify the current state of things. UNIX-WIZARDS is an InterNet ("ARPANet") mailing list. There is a companion list called INFO-UNIX. net.unix-wizards is a "UUCP" (netnews) newsgroup. There is a companion list called net.unix. These pairs of lists are connected together in a 2-way gateway, ie, UNIX-WIZARDS <--> net.unix-wizards INFO-UNIX <--> net.unix All of the additional sub-structure of the netnews system does not make it out to the Inter-Net portion of this list. Ie, net.sources, net.bugs.4bsd, and other such lists NEVER makes it out to the InterNet. And, conversely, mail which InterNet people submit to UNIX-WIZARDS always goes to net.unix-wizards. I would like to make several pleas: *) UNIX-WIZARDS (resp, net.unix-wizards) should be a place where there is a highly technical discussion about features, changes, bugs, and futures of UNIX. My own feeling is that there is not enough bug-reporting traffic to really make it worthwhile separating it into another list. Most "Unix Wizards" are a Jack-of-all-Trades when it comes to UNIX software, and the fellow fixing the Kernel probably is the fellow fixing CC, or LD, or ED, or whathaveyou(1). And, the person runing a 2.9 BSD today will probably have a 4.2 tomorrow (and/or a System V). Often, there will be similar bugs across many versions of UNIX. *) INFO-UNIX (resp, net.unix) should be a place where new users (actually, all "non-wizard" users) of UNIX should feel free to ask questions, share horror stories, and swap software. Enough people capable of answering all the questions raised read the list, so the balance of questions to answers should not be a problem. Discussion of "applications packages" (cross assemblers, database managers, etc) properly belong here. *) Header lines on messages should provide as much information as possible, so that people not interested in the particular issue raised in a message may skip over it. (Personally, I read them all, to be sure to not miss a good "tidbit", but tastes differ). Contributors have been pretty good about this; please continue! I would like everybody to subtly change their thinking when sending messages to the groups net.unix and net.unix-wizards; ask yourself: "Is this question so important that it should be seen by over 1000 of the most active UNIX people in the world?". If the answer to that question is "yes", THEN ask the question: "Would I be personally embarrassed if Dennis Ritchie, or one of the other creators of UNIX, read my message?" If the answer to that question is "no", THEN send to UNIX-WIZARDS. **Otherwise**, please route your mail to INFO-UNIX (aka, net.unix). You will still receive a proper response (perhaps many!), and will be interacting with the correct set of people. Best Wishes for a Happy Holiday Season, -Mike Muuss Moderator of this, that and the other.