[comp.dcom.telecom] Tandy/Heathkit

Ed_Greenberg@3mail.3com.com (02/06/91)

>Eventually, RS became the large portion of Tandy, and I believe the 
>craft business is almost completely gone.

We have a "Tandy Crafts" store near my home (San Carlos Avenue in San
Jose) but their hours are 10-5 Mon-Sat so I haven't been able to get in
there, the few times I've wanted to try.  It's an old dusty store,
from what I can see, and it's not clear to me how anyone can make any
money with such limited access by the public (in this day and age.)

> [Modertor: Say! Speaking of Heathkit ... what are *they* doing
> these days? Are they still around?

Many people recently got a Heathkit catalog.  I think that the mailing
list included the FCC Amateur Radio Operators database, since all the
hams I know got one addressed to their FCC mailing addresses.

It was pitiful. About 30% of the stuff in the catalog was buildable.
The rest was sold assembled-only.  The ham gear line has been
decimated, the stereo/television line is about gone, and their concept
of building a computer is to plug the boards in.

gordonl@microsoft.UUCP (Gordon LETWIN) (02/10/91)

In article <16709@accuvax.nwu.edu>, Ed_Greenberg@3mail.3com.com
writes:

> Many people recently got a Heathkit catalog.  

> It was pitiful. About 30% of the stuff in the catalog was buildable.
> The rest was sold assembled-only ... their concept
> of building a computer is to plug the boards in.

Heath made plenty of mistakes, for sure, but they're not totally
responsible for their downfall.  Have you looked inside a state of the
art computer today?  I just examined the motherboard of a Compaq
386/20e with an eye towards diagnosing/repairing it.  It seemed that
half of the chips were ASIC, they were nearly all .05" lead spaced
surface mount, with many many high pin-count (or is it leg-count?)
chips.

I've had years of experience hacking electronics, but I couldn't
remove and replace even one of those high count SM chips without
special tools and a lot of practice.  Can you imagine regular folks
building a board with hundreds of them on it?

And then testing -- kit folks have to be able to test and diagnose what
they build.  You need something like signature analysis to test a
board like this ... you can't do it with a voltmeter or even a scope.

So Heath is pretty much forced into offering you preassembled and
pretested boards, unless you want a computer made from socketed MSI
which would be the size of your desk and cost much more than a
prebuilt one.


gordon letwin

(I worked for Heath fifteen years ago, but that doesn't matter...)