kaufman@neon.stanford.edu (Marc T. Kaufman) (02/27/91)
In article <telecom11.159.4@eecs.nwu.edu> steve@wattres.uucp (Steve Watt) writes: > On a somewhat related note, I'm curious ... how many area codes are > there out there (like PacBell territory in 408) that don't require a > 1+ for *any* call, local, long-distance, or otherwise? That's only in the Santa Clara valley. 408 area code in Santa Cruz, which is ALSO PacBell, requires the 1+ No, I don't know why. Marc Kaufman (kaufman@Neon.stanford.edu)
Robert_Swenson.OSBU_North@xerox.com (02/27/91)
> I once heard a rumor that 408 was the last area code in the NANP > that allowed ten digit (real ten digit, not 1 + ten) dialing. This is sometimes confusing. I work in AC 408 where the 1 before the AC is NOT PERMITTED (this is in Santa Clara county), and I live in 415 (in Alameda county), where it IS required. Sometimes it takes a few tries before I realize I am using the wrong dialing pattern for where I am. Bob Swenson
john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) (02/28/91)
Robert_Swenson.OSBU_North@xerox.com writes: > This is sometimes confusing. I work in AC 408 where the 1 before the > AC is NOT PERMITTED (this is in Santa Clara county), It was my understanding that '1' was made permissive a few years ago. Are you sure it is your telephone exchange that does not permit using a '1' and not your in house system? If so, I would be very interested to know what prefix does not allow the '1'. John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 723 1395 john@zygot.ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | M o o ! [Moderator's Note: As noted in another message in this issue, his home phone is 408-737. PAT]
linc@tongue1.berkeley.edu (Linc Madison) (02/28/91)
I lived in San Jose from 1985 - 1987, and use of 1+ was permissive at that time. Indeed, I'm quite skeptical of the articles that have appeared recently mentioning that until recently the use of 1+ was prohibited. It may have been prohibited for calls within 408, but the discussion about San Jose being the last area in the country to allow not using 1+ has centered on dialing other area codes. Also, I saw just one too many of the ads with the AT&T clown sweeping up to the charming background voices singing, "Dial One, Plus the Area Code (if different from your own), then the Number!" to believe that 1+NPA+Number was prohibited anywhere, at least in the last fifteen or twenty years, for calls to other area codes. Linc Madison = linc@tongue1.berkeley.edu P.S. Just my $0.000002 worth on "correct way to write phone numbers": I prefer (NPA) NXX-XXXX because it allows easier visual "chunking" for memory purposes. It is also the way that the vast majority of all phone numbers I have ever seen printed have been formatted; using periods between the numbers is almost unheard-of in the U.S.
chapman@alc.com (Brent Chapman) (03/01/91)
In <telecom11.164.8@eecs.nwu.edu> Robert_Swenson.OSBU_North@xerox.com writes: >> I once heard a rumor that 408 was the last area code in the NANP >> that allowed ten digit (real ten digit, not 1 + ten) dialing. > This is sometimes confusing. I work in AC 408 where the 1 before the > AC is NOT PERMITTED (this is in Santa Clara county), and I live in 415 > (in Alameda county), where it IS required. Sometimes it takes a few > tries before I realize I am using the wrong dialing pattern for where > I am. Are you sure this isn't just the funky Xerox phone service? I used to work at PARC; I know just how funky it can get ... I live and work in the 408 area code, and have "normal" lines both at work (where I run the phone system; an AT&T Merlin II that I inheirited with the job, if anybody cares) and at home; I habitually dial "1 415 xxx yyyy" for 415 numbers from both locations, and never have a problem. I just tested dialing without the "1" from work, and sure enough it works, but (at least here, in the 408-943 exchange) it works just fine _with_ the leading 1 as well. Brent Chapman Ascent Logic Corporation Computer Operations Manager 180 Rose Orchard Way, Suite 200 chapman@alc.com San Jose, CA 95134 Phone: 408/943-0630
Robert_Swenson.OSBU_North@xerox.com (03/01/91)
From John Higdon (john@zygot.ati) who wrote: >> Robert_Swenson.OSBU_North@xerox.com writes: > This is sometimes confusing. I work in AC 408 where the 1 before the > AC is NOT PERMITTED (this is in Santa Clara county), It was my understanding that '1' was made permissive a few years ago. Are you sure it is your telephone exchange that does not permit using a '1' and not your in house system? If so, I would be very interested to know what prefix does not allow the '1'. I just tried and my in house system still will not permit +1 (415) xxx xxxx. As your note asks, I do not know what Pac Bell will do directly. My work phone is (408) 737 xxxx Bob Swenson
srobson@ucscb.ucsc.edu (Seth I. Robson) (03/01/91)
I live in Santa Cruz, which is a part of the 408 area code. When I dial numbers in the greater Bay Area (415), I am required to dial a 1+ first. Even if I want to make a zone 3 call within my own area code (say, to Sunnyvale or San Jose), I am still required to dial a 1+ before the rest of the number. I don't know whether I am the norm or the exception in the 408 AC. Seth I. Robson; srobson@ucscb.ucsc.edu (the ascii assassin) University o'California, Santa Cruz.
AMillar@cup.portal.com (03/03/91)
>> I once heard a rumor that 408 was the last area code in the NANP >> that allowed ten digit (real ten digit, not 1 + ten) dialing. > This is sometimes confusing. I work in AC 408 where the 1 before the > AC is NOT PERMITTED (this is in Santa Clara county), and I live in 415 > (in Alameda county), where it IS required. Sometimes it takes a few In most of the Santa Clara - San Jose area, the 1 prefix is not required, but it is allowed. I can call from home (North San Jose, 408-945 prefix) with or without the 1. Possibly your PBX at work is programmed to not allow the 1? I'm still used to dialing without the 1, and had an interesting run-in with a COCOT at the Black Angus in Sunnyvale. I picked up the handset and started dialing 800-XXX-X and as soon as it got the seventh digit it told me to insert 20 cents. I read the label, which said to dial 1 + 800 + xxx xxxx. I dialed the 1, and the phone took it. I know, what can you expect from a COCOT, and I should learn to dial 1 anyway, but you know how it goes... :-) Alan Millar AMillar@cup.portal.com