[net.unix-wizards] origins of unix

day@fortune.UUCP (Dave Yost) (12/29/83)

I heard a delicious rumor recently:
Apparently there was an operating system
named 'genie' developed at Berkeley in the
early 60's in assembly language.  The claim
is that there is a striking similarity between
unix and this system.

Anyone know about this?

--dave yost

chris@basservax.SUN (01/04/84)

I guess that the similarities of 'genie' to 'unix' are only
that they are both operating systems. Or maybe the similarity
was to 4.2bsd... 

Sorry about the bitterness, but I have seen enough Berkeley
software to know.

day@fortune.UUCP (Dave Yost) (01/05/84)

Oh, dopey me.  Shooting off at the mouth.
The venerable 'Unix Time-sharing System'
1974 ACM article mentions the GENIE time-
sharing system as an influence, had I
looked.  Isn't technological archaeology fun?
Imagine, many of the good ideas that found
their way into unix were around 10 years
before Version 6 came out, and yet so many
of us were stuck using the other garbage
of the time.

I wonder what wonderful stuff is hiding
out there somewhere today that we haven't
even heard of, too avant-garde to make it
into the unix arena?

--dave

ed@unisoft.UUCP (01/12/84)

Genie was indeed an operating system developed at Berkeley
in the 60s.  It ran on the SDS (later XDS) 940.  It wasn't
particularly Unix-like, but I'm sure that there were good
ideas taken.  In particular, Genie is the genesis of qed,
the predecessor of our favorite editor, ed.  Among the things
that Genie had were command completion in its command
interpreter, and a good interactive Snobol4 system.  It
was a fun system.  It finally met its demise when a
construction crew building a new floor above the machine room
got too much sawdust into the drum.
-- 
Ed Gould
ucbvax!mtxinu!ed