[comp.dcom.telecom] Obtaining Unlisted Numbers

"Dennis G. Rears" <drears@pilot.njin.net> (05/17/91)

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   I promised this list a long time ago an account on how to get
unlisted numbers legally.  The methods I used are not very technical
but useful.  First some background, I was married on 30 Sep 1989, and
after many moons of a blissful marriage :-) we were separated in
April, 1990.  After I moved out of the apartment in July, 1990 she
moved back in and decided to get her new number unlisted and not give
it to me (in violation of the separation agreement).  She also
canceled my existing phone service three days prior to when it should
have been but that is another issue.

  As I had legitimate need to contact her and the corespondent (look
that up in your legal dictionary) I needed to get the number.  Without
specifing the exact method that worked the following were possible
methods I used:

   o Went to a mutual friend's house and under the pretense of calling
home, called my answering machine and when the message was done hit
the memory recall for Sharon's number and deposited the DTMF tones on
my answering machine.

  o I knew what prefix her number was (201-208). I also had a local
directory that I scanned into my PC.  It turned out that only numbers
of the form 208-[0289]XXX has been assigned.  I got from a contact
from TPC a list of unassigned numbers for that prefix.  I then had a
list of 23 unlisted numbers.  I hit it on the 7th call.

  o Her mother works on the floor beneath me. I got her to dial her at
home at a pay phone.  For an ex-computer hacker who is used to picking
up passwords from a user typing at a keyboard the phone pad is not a
contest.  Anyone want a calling card number :-).  Not only that, her
mother called her from work while I was there.  Anyone want to bet
that I used my DTMF calculator to record the number when I hit redial
after she left.

  o It was easy to get the corespondent's number, he was a volunter
fireman.  We have lots of computer-illiterate volunteer fireman at
work.  I gave them computer training they gave me confidential info.

  o It unbelievable the info you can get from people once you get them
suffiencently drunk ...

  o Of course there is Caller-ID, you call up her lawyer, say
something that he will communicate to her and in her pissed-off mode
she will call you.  But I have Caller-ID and thus I have her number.

  o There is one last way ->   Bluffing that I have it and she gives it to
me.  Guess how I got it? ...

  BTW, don't think the TPC will give it to you.  They won't and can't.
I remember five years ago when I was Staff Duty Officer (Army 1LT) and
had to get in contact with a civilian employee because the office of
Chief of Staff Army (ranking officer of the US Army) needed some
production figures.  TPC would not give it to me, even when I cited
official business.  The best they would do is take my number, call the
party and leave a message.

   The moral of the story _> thanks to old tech and new tech, no real
privacy exists if one wants to go to any lengths.  For those of you
who are wondering ... I was awarded a divorce on my terms thanks to my
excellent and cheap lawyer (pro se).  It's funny though the only time
I called her and the corespondent was just to verify the phone number.


Dennis

johnson@uunet.uu.net> (05/22/91)

 From article <telecom11.375.11@eecs.nwu.edu>, by drears@pilot.njin.
net (Dennis G. Rears):

> As I had legitimate need to contact her and the corespondent (look
> that up in your legal dictionary) I needed to get the number.

> It's funny though the only time I called her and the corespondent was just
> to verify the phone number.

So did you really have a legitimate need to contact her or not?
Wouldn't registered mail have worked?