bill@baldric.eedsp.gatech.edu (06/12/91)
I found the following on the Associated Press financial wire. ALL
INACCURACIES ARE AP's.
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APf 06/11 1536 Hacker Sentenced
BALTIMORE (AP) -- A computer hacker has been sentenced to a year
and a day in prison for stealing information from American Telephone &
Telegraph and its subsidiary Bell Laboratories.
Leonard Rose Jr., 32, an unemployed computer consultant, pleaded
guilty in March to one count of sending AT&T source codes via computer
to a hacker in Illinois, and a similar wire fraud charge involving a
Chicago hacker.
Rose was once a member of a nationwide hackers' group called the
Legion of Doom.
He originally was indicted on charges of computer fraud and
interstate transportation of stolen property, but those charges were
dropped under a plea agreement.
U.S. District Judge J. Frederick Motz on Monday ordered Rose to
sell his computer equipment, which was seized last year in a raid on
his home in Middletown, and to tell potential employers of his
conviction. He is to begin serving his sentence July 10.
The judge did not order restitution to AT&T because Rose has what
one of his attornies called "a negative net worth."
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[Moderator's Note: Len Rose's involvement in activities which brought
him to the attention of federal authorities was first reported on
Usenet here in TELECOM Digest over a year ago. Mr. Rose was active for
several years in Usenet and the internet. His site, 'netsys' was known
to many users. PAT]bart simpson <lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk> (06/14/91)
Now that the Computer Misuse Act (1990) is in operation it might stop some of the abuses which have happened in the UK recently. Graham Wilson | lsg001
Scott Dorsey <kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov> (06/14/91)
In article <telecom11.448.1@eecs.nwu.edu> bill@eedsp.gatech.edu writes: > BALTIMORE (AP) -- A computer hacker has been sentenced to a year > and a day in prison for stealing information from American Telephone & > Telegraph and its subsidiary Bell Laboratories. > Leonard Rose Jr., 32, an unemployed computer consultant, pleaded > guilty in March to one count of sending AT&T source codes via computer > to a hacker in Illinois, and a similar wire fraud charge involving a > Chicago hacker. He did indeed send a copy of the System V login source code to someone who may have used it in the commission of a crime. > Rose was once a member of a nationwide hackers' group called the > Legion of Doom. No, he was not. Sorry. > He originally was indicted on charges of computer fraud and > interstate transportation of stolen property, but those charges were > dropped under a plea agreement. > U.S. District Judge J. Frederick Motz on Monday ordered Rose to > sell his computer equipment, which was seized last year in a raid on > his home in Middletown, and to tell potential employers of his > conviction. He is to begin serving his sentence July 10. > The judge did not order restitution to AT&T because Rose has what > one of his attornies called "a negative net worth." This is indeed true. He did not have such a condition until spending huge amounts of money for defense. scott [Moderator's Note: I did not bother to correct various inaccuracies in the wire story because the submitter pointed out the text was verbatim, and I assumed *we* all knew about the Legion of Doom thing. Regarding payment to his attornies, my understanding is much of the expense was met by friends, although without employment Len had the 'negative net worth' anyway. I hope his wife and kids have been able to get on public assistance (welfare) for the interim. PAT]
Craig Neidorf <C483307@umcvmb.bitnet> (06/15/91)
In TELECOM Digest, Volume 11 : Issue 453, Scott Dorsey writes: > In article <telecom11.448.1@eecs.nwu.edu> bill@eedsp.gatech.edu > writes: >> BALTIMORE (AP) -- A computer hacker has been sentenced to a year >> and a day in prison for stealing information from American Telephone & >> Telegraph and its subsidiary Bell Laboratories. >> Leonard Rose Jr., 32, an unemployed computer consultant, pleaded >> guilty in March to one count of sending AT&T source codes via computer >> to a hacker in Illinois, and a similar wire fraud charge involving a >> Chicago hacker. > He did indeed send a copy of the System V login source code to > someone who may have used it in the commission of a crime. Who is this person that you believe he sent the System V login source code to that may have used it in the commission of a crime? >> The judge did not order restitution to AT&T because Rose has what >> one of his attornies called "a negative net worth." > This is indeed true. He did not have such a condition until > spending huge amounts of money for defense. Speaking as someone who knows what really happened to Len and how the system really treats a criminal defendant, I will inform you of a couple of things. Len Rose did not spend huge amounts on his defense. When Rose was first raided by the Secret Service in March 1990, the agents seized all of his computers and everything related (and a lot of things unrelated). They effectively deprived him of his livelihood as a private Unix consultant. They had their reasons and I'm not going to argue about those. However, Len had little money to begin with and was already deep into debt before these incidents happened. He lost his house and his truck. Len Rose had a court appointed attorney for a while and there are some things you should know about how that works. You can only get court appointed counsel if you cannot afford an attorney and you must prove this to the court by bringing in all of your financial files. Later attornies like Sheldon Zenner and Jane Macht were paid for by friends of Len Rose and there was a donation fund for his family's living expenses to which many people contributed. Craig Neidorf (C483307 @ UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU) [Moderator's Note: Mr. Neidorf was a defendant in one of the criminal prosecutions associated with the Legion of Doom. He is (was?) the publisher and editor of {Phrack}, an electronic journal whose name is a contraction of the two words 'phreak' and 'hack'. He was found not guilty of the charges lodged against him, and the government dropped its prosecution of him when it was discovered that the information he published (relating to the complaint) was available to the public from other sources. PAT]
"John R. Schutz" <john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu> (06/16/91)
TELECOM Moderator Noted, in a post by Craig Neidorf: > [Moderator's Note: Mr. Neidorf was a defendant in one of the criminal > prosecutions associated with the Legion of Doom. He is (was?) the > publisher and editor of {Phrack}, an electronic journal whose name is > a contraction of the two words 'phreak' and 'hack'. Was. He has stated that he will not go back to editing {Phrack}. John R. Schutz Email&NeXTmail: A learning NeXTie john@csrnxt1.ae.utexas.edu (512)328-0587 3009 Hatley Dr., Austin, TX 78746
Bill Martens <billm@tokyo07.info.com> (06/19/91)
Well, it has been my observation during my young years in the computer world that the problems originated not from the occaisional hacker but instead from the people like our moderator( PAT) who take a simple thing and blow it totally out of proportion (like the Len Rose case). I am really shocked by the way in which people like this will take every opportunity to slam (put down) some one who has done no worse of crime than anyone else (can you honestly say, Pat, that you've never done anything wrong?) has done. You know the Bible says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". well, I guess that just about eliminates all of us .. doesn't it, PAT!