[comp.sys.dec] Question re Hayes-compatible modems on Ultrix uVax

hp@beta.UUCP (Akkana) (08/14/87)

Someone down the hall from me needs help connecting some
Hayes-compatible modems to his Ultrix MicroVax for UUCP and
dialins.  I looked through his manuals and it looks like a
simple procedure, with one exception -- looks like Ultrix doesn't
support non-DEC modems.  This seems unlikely -- my theory was
that one of the DEC modems uucpsetup seems to know about is
probably a Hayes-compatible, and all I have to do is to find
out the DEC part number which corresponds to "Hayes-compatible"
and everything will be fine.  Unfortunately, he has no idea what
kind of modems DEC has and seems to be having trouble getting any
support from DEC for his uVax.  Can anybody help?  What do I tell
uucpsetup to make it work with a Hayes-compatible?

(It's a uVax II running Ultrix 2.0-1, if that makes any difference.
I haven't seen the modems but they're probably USR Courier 2400's
-- any comments regarding problems installing 2400 baud modems might
also be helpful, though I suspect he'd be happy with 1200 baud for a
while.)

Thanks in advance -- any help would be much appreciated.


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joe@mdbs.UUCP (Joe Greer) (08/17/87)

There is a file in /etc called acucap.  This file contains the entries for
all valid acu's.  It looks like it understands hayes and ventel as well as
all the dec modems.  If nothing else, you can put your own entry here.

						Joe Greer
				...{ihnp4,ucbvax,rutgers}!pur-ee!mdbs!joe

jsloan@wright.UUCP (08/18/87)

in article <8952@beta.UUCP>, hp@beta.UUCP (Akkana) says:
> Someone down the hall from me needs help connecting some
> Hayes-compatible modems to his Ultrix MicroVax for UUCP and
> dialins.  I looked through his manuals and it looks like a
> simple procedure, with one exception -- looks like Ultrix doesn't
> support non-DEC modems.

I tried mailing this reply but it got bounced all the way from
cbosgd!moss!ptsfa!beta with the message "Forwarding to this system
disallowed". So here's a posting to waste everyone's bandwidth. BTW,
I've noticed that the vn interface doesn't allow you to specify a
distribution, so I guess this goes worldwide. Too bad.

We won't migrate to 2.0 for a couple of weeks yet, but Ultrix 1.2 on
our VAX 750 has an /etc/acucap file in which automatic call units (or
dial out modems when they are integrated) are described. I believe the
distributed acucap with 1.2 had an entry for Hayes. Tip and UUCP both
use the acucap under Ultrix 1.2. I've pretty much ignored the uucpsetup
scripts, as well as most of the other system administration scripts on
all of our machines; at the most I use the scripts to set up a template
of what I want, and then I hand edit the files in question to get what
I really need.  Anyway, I've included some of our acucap for your
entertainment and delight. We've been using this acucap for months with
no trouble. You had better have modem control enabled on the serial
lines in question and the proper cables installed, because the generic
dialing code looks for DTR rising and falling, so you'll get poor
results if DTR is tied high or low or left hanging.

hayes|h1200|smartmodem|Hayes smartmodem 1200 (touch tone):\
        :ls:cr:hu:re:rs=,:\
	:fd#60:\
	:sd#500000:ss=+++ATZ\r:sr=OK:\
	:dd#100000:di=ATF1L3TD:dt=\r:\
        :os=CONNECT:

mt224n|Multitech MT224ER modem in non-MNP mode:\
        :ls:cr:hu:re:rs=,:\
	:fd#60:\
	:sd#500000:ss=+++ATZ\r:sr=OK:\
	:dd#100000:di=AT&E0&E10X0M1F1L3TD:dt=\r:\
        :os=CONNECT:

microcom|m2400|Microcom SX2400 modem in non-MNP mode:\
        :ls:cr:hu:re:rs=,:\
	:fd#180:sd#500000:dd#500000:\
	:ss=INIT\rY\r\r\r\r\r:\
	:sr=ARE YOU SURE? (Y/N) :\
	:di=SMNOR\rDT:\
	:dt=,,,,,\r:\
	:os=\r\n:

-- John

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Computer Science Department, Wright State University, Dayton OH, 45435        
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pat@tifsil.UUCP (Pat Peters) (08/18/87)

in article <8952@beta.UUCP>, hp@beta.UUCP (Akkana) says:
> Xref: tifsil comp.sys.dec:35 comp.dcom.modems:53
> 
> Someone down the hall from me needs help connecting some
> Hayes-compatible modems to his Ultrix MicroVax for UUCP and
> dialins.  I looked through his manuals and it looks like a
> simple procedure, with one exception -- looks like Ultrix doesn't
> support non-DEC modems.  
 and 
> (It's a uVax II running Ultrix 2.0-1, if that makes any difference.

Take a look at /usr/lib/uucp/L-devices (this is, I believe, just like it
comes from DEC):

	#######################
	# Sample entries: 
	#
	#ACU ttyd0 ttyd0 1200 DF03
	#ACU ttyd1 ttyd1 300 DF02
	#ACU ttyd2 ttyd2 1200 hayes
	#ACU ttyd3 ttyd3 1200 ventel
	#DIR tty04 tty04 9600 direct

Note ttyd2.  We're using a hayes Smartmodem with no problems.  I don't
know how to convince uucpsetup to do this, however.  I did my uucp set up
by hand.

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