[comp.sys.dec] Experiences with VAXmates?

ejw@sask.UUCP (Eric Woodsworth) (10/31/87)

I haven't been reading this group so don't know if my questions have
been answered recently.  

Does anyone have any impressions they would like to share on the VAXmate?
Our department is buying several, but I have an option of going for an AT
or other compatible.  I've heard that the VAXmate is overpriced.  True?
We would be communicating with VAXen via modem rather than ethernet, so the
ethernet board which I hear is included would be superfluous.

What software and hardware are included with (inseparable from) the 
basic machine.  Will it run all AT software and what are the main 
differences (if any) from the AT?

Any comments, positive or negative, are gratefully accepted.
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13501ADC@MSU.BITNET (Alan Cabrera) (11/09/87)

I've read that a VAXmate without the Ethernet connection is pretty useless.
An Ethernet connection to a VAX apparently allows you to remote mount disks
for seamless use on your micro.  Without the Ethernet connection to your VAX,
it would seem that you would be stuck with an overpriced AT clone.
     
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bob@rel.eds.com (Bob Leffler) (11/13/87)

In article <7213501ADC@MSU>, 13501adc@msu.bitnet.UUCP writes:
> I've read that a VAXmate without the Ethernet connection is pretty useless.
> An Ethernet connection to a VAX apparently allows you to remote mount disks
> for seamless use on your micro.  Without the Ethernet connection to your VAX,
> it would seem that you would be stuck with an overpriced AT clone.
>      

Even with the Ethernet connection it's questionable. If for some reason the
Vaxmate can not boot from it's floppy or hard disk, it sends a request for
service packet across the net.  Most people think that this would be a great
idea. (i.e. diskless PC)  However, DEC forgot to release the network drivers
to answer this requests.  Since each host on the net will answer with aborted 
service request packets, it doesn't take long for your net to get hosed with
unwanted packets.

DEC's answer is to wait until 2.0 of VMS Services is released in March.  You
would think that you might get a coordinated effort between the hardware and
software groups at DEC.


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