gengenba@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Gengenbach) (11/16/89)
Hello, we have a problem in deciding about the best ethernet configuration for our DECsystem 5810. We from the Bavarian AI Research Center are buying a DEC configuration with a couple of DECstations and a DECsystem as server. We have a University ethernet, which is fairly loaded, so we want to seperate our ethernet-segment from the University-segment. On the other hand our server should also serve some of the University machines. When asking our DEC people about the problem we didn't find anybody with experience in hardware and ULTRIX TCP/IP. They did only know about VMS and DECNET. Our questions are: - When using 1 ethernet-controller for each segment, do they filter the traffic between the segments. Is the CPU needed to do it, or can it be done in the ethernet-cards locally? - When using a LAN-bridge can we efficiently serve machines over the bridge? And in this case: Is one DEBNI-ethernet-controller with a speed of 5 MBit/second enough to serve our local machines and the University ones? I hope that somebody can give us some advice on our configuration. Thank you. Michael -- Michael Gengenbach \/\/\/\/\/ gengenbach@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de AI Research Center \/\/\/\/ gengenbach%unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de@unido.BITNET University of Passau /\/\/\/\ gengenbach%unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de@relay.CS.NET West Germany /\/\/\/\/\ Phone: +49 851/509-496
grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (11/17/89)
In article <787@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de> gengenba@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Gengenbach) writes: > Hello, > > we have a problem in deciding about the best ethernet configuration for > our DECsystem 5810. > > - When using 1 ethernet-controller for each segment, do they > filter the traffic between the segments. Is the CPU needed > to do it, or can it be done in the ethernet-cards locally? The CPU has to be involved and probably has to listen to packets it could otherwise tell the interface to ignore. I'd go with the lan-bridge approach. > - When using a LAN-bridge can we efficiently serve machines over > the bridge? Probably, but be sure you have lots of memory and/or a local swapping disk on each of the workstations so you don't put this pointless workload thru the bridge. > And in this case: Is one DEBNI-ethernet-controller > with a speed of 5 MBit/second enough to serve our local machines > and the University ones? This is probably no worse performance than the average ethernet card so I wouldn't expect unusual difficulties. -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@uunet.uu.net Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)
frank@croton.enet.dec.com (Frank Wortner) (11/17/89)
In article <787@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de>, gengenba@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Gengenbach) writes:
= Hello,
=
= we have a problem in deciding about the best ethernet configuration for
= our DECsystem 5810.
=
= When asking our DEC people about the problem we didn't find anybody with
= experience in hardware and ULTRIX TCP/IP. They did only know about VMS and
= DECNET. Our questions are:
=
= - When using 1 ethernet-controller for each segment, do they
= filter the traffic between the segments. Is the CPU needed
= to do it, or can it be done in the ethernet-cards locally?
=
= - When using a LAN-bridge can we efficiently serve machines over
= the bridge? And in this case: Is one DEBNI-ethernet-controller
= with a speed of 5 MBit/second enough to serve our local machines
= and the University ones?
=
= I hope that somebody can give us some advice on our configuration.
=
= Thank you.
=
= Michael
Mann can nicht antworten ... (I hope I spelled that right :-)
It is not possible to determine what the efficiency will be from the information
you posted. What do you mean when you use the word "serve?" What types of
services? How many machines are involved? What types of machines are they? Do
you have any plans for future expansion? Do you have any budgetary or technical
constraints? Any answer to your questions would require more information.
Frank