n8443916@unicorn.WWU.EDU (John Gossman) (08/27/90)
What is the status of DEC's publicly announced decision to ship MOTIF with Ultrix, and furthermore to integrate/replace DECWindows with MOTIF? I actually prefer DECWins to MOTIF in many ways, but the market appears to want MOTIF. Is MOTIF even binary available on the MIPS boxes currently? I would like replies from anyone, DEC sales reps, engineers, and end-users: even just opinions. Thanks in advance. --John Gossman SoftSource Inc. / My company stands behind my opinions, but only in private. /
jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys) (08/27/90)
It has been available from OSF for quite a while in source form It has been shipping as a binary layered product for some months now (I don't have the part number handy). A future release will see it as the default user interface. Talk to your salesman to order a copy. - Jim
goldberg@davidsys.com (Seth Goldberg) (08/28/90)
In article <1428@unicorn.WWU.EDU>, n8443916@unicorn.WWU.EDU (John Gossman) writes: > What is the status of DEC's publicly announced decision > to ship MOTIF with Ultrix, and furthermore to integrate/replace > DECWindows with MOTIF? I actually prefer DECWins to MOTIF in many > ways, but the market appears to want MOTIF. Is MOTIF even binary > available on the MIPS boxes currently? > > I would like replies from anyone, DEC sales reps, engineers, > and end-users: even just opinions. Thanks in advance. > The information I have is the following: (1) You can order a DECWindows Developer Kit for OSF/Motif from DEC. The part number is QA-YMBAA-H5 for RISC Ultrix QA-YMCAA-H5 for VAX Ultrix QA-YMAAA-H5 for VMS (and also need QL-YMAA*-AA where * is the processor code) License comes with Ultrix 4.0 and is $50 for a VAXstation with VMS. The H kits are $385. You can even order MDDS (media and doc updates) service. (2) The 1.0 kit is based on X11R3 and has Motif 1.0. V1.1 kit will come out later and be X11R4 based and have Motif V1.1. (3) I do not know if they include source code. It does include tools for porting from DECWindows. My understanding is that tool is primarily a script that edits all your files and changes DECW in the DECWindow calls to whatever the Motif naming is. (4) DEC does intend to migrate DECWindows to Motif. In theory the main difference is in the window manager and you can run the Motif window manager on a DECWindows based system. My understanding of the plan is to do what they have done so far, which is provide development kits to software developers for Motif. Then make Motif an optional environment on delivered systems to DECWindows and finally to make Motif the default environment. At least they made a few public announcements to this effect. Seth Goldberg Manager, Computer Resources David Systems Internet: goldberg@davidsys.com UUCP: ...!uunet!sam!goldberg
glenn@herald.usask.ca (Glenn Hollinger) (08/28/90)
From article <1990Aug27.142022.23333@crl.dec.com>, by jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys): > It has been shipping as a binary layered product for some months now (I don't > have the part number handy). A future release will see it as the > default user interface. Talk to your salesman to order a copy. We tried to order this for our DECsystem 3100. We ordered the part number for the Ultrix-RISC version. What we received was a tape with the correct part number but the Ultrix-VAX binaries. TSC admitted that the problem was wider than just our site. Has anybody else had similar experiences? Glenn Hollinger University of Saskatchewan glenn@herald.usask.ca
avolio@decuac.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) (09/18/90)
In article <362@davidsys.com>, goldberg@davidsys.com (Seth Goldberg) writes: |>(1) You can order a DECWindows Developer Kit for OSF/Motif from DEC. |>The part number is QA-YMBAA-H5 for RISC Ultrix |> QA-YMCAA-H5 for VAX Ultrix |> QA-YMAAA-H5 for VMS (and also need QL-YMAA*-AA |> where * is the processor code) The part numbers are swapped for ULTRIX in the above. The part numbers were listed wrong in an internal only digital sales publication. Fred