[comp.sys.dec] Sony Optical on DS3100

hhd0@GTE.COM (Horace Dediu) (09/20/90)

I'm still trying to set up a Sony Read/Write SCSI Optical Drive on a DS3100.
It's set up as unit 3 along with an RZ55 and a TK50 on the SCSI bus.
The hardware is visible to the console monitor and I did a 
	>>scsi fm 3
which worked.  The drive passed the DEC extended mode self test, but failed the 
	>>scsi cd 3
(Read/write test for SCSI hard drive) with 
"illegal data out length specified"
and 
"Drive write error***".
The drive can be set up and it returns inquiry respones and a ready status.

The problem is when using rzdisk.  I issued
	#/bin/rzdisk -f /dev/rrz3c
and the system just went away hung (^C did nothing).  It came back only after 
turning the power to the drive off.  Any other rzdisk options have the same 
effect.  I am running Ultrix 4.0.  I had similar problems with earlier versions
of Ultrix, and thought that 4.0 would solve them.  What can I do?
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devin@samwise.Colorado.EDU (Yampalimardilor) (09/21/90)

In article <9755@bunny.GTE.COM>, hhd0@GTE.COM (Horace Dediu) writes:
|> I'm still trying to set up a Sony Read/Write SCSI Optical Drive on a DS3100.
[Iteration of problems deleted]

The problem is that the DECstations speak SCSI2 and the Sony MO doesn't.  I
have yet to find anyone (with one exception - but his suggestions don't seem
to help at all) who can make it work.  We're going to be putting our drive
on our Sun.

		-Devin
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pavlov@canisius.UUCP (Greg Pavlov) (09/23/90)

In article <26615@boulder.Colorado.EDU>, devin@samwise.Colorado.EDU (Yampalimardilor) writes:
> 
> The problem is that the DECstations speak SCSI2 ....

  Is that true ??  All of them, or just the DECstation 5000 ???

  Disk performance on our DECstation 3100's don't seem to point to the presence
  of a SCSI II capability...

  greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny

minow@mountn.dec.com (Martin Minow) (09/25/90)

In article <2892@canisius.UUCP> pavlov@canisius.UUCP (Greg Pavlov) writes:
>
>  Disk performance on our DECstation 3100's don't seem to point to the presence
>  of a SCSI II capability...
>

The Ansi SCSI-II spec has several independent parts:

-- "hardware" such as the wide scsi bus enhancement.
-- "software" such as the extended command set and sense codes.

These are -- somewhat -- independent: a device can implement the SCSI-II
command set without the hardware bus enhancements.   However, the converse
is not true: the hardware enhancements, such as wide data transfer and
synchronous data transfer require negotiation as described in the
SCSI-II spec.

I suspect that the original poster was referring to the command set
capabilities.  These are, as far as I can tell, a superset of the
SCSI-I with "common command set."

I don't think any DECstations implement the wide or fast scsi bus
hardware enhancements.

Martin Minow
minow@bolt.enet.dec.com
The above does not represent the position of Digital Equipment Corporation.