rmfowler@texrex.uucp (Rex Fowler) (03/29/91)
Has anyone else heard that DEC will be discontinuing their MicroVAX line and thereby discontinuing any non-risc Ultrix machines? Thanks -- Rex Fowler <rmfowler%texrex@cirr.com> UUCP: egsner!texrex!rmfowler
alan@shodha.enet.dec.com ( Alan's Home for Wayward Notes File.) (03/29/91)
In article <1991Mar29.022854.13827@texrex.uucp>, rmfowler@texrex.uucp (Rex Fowler) writes: > Has anyone else heard that DEC will be discontinuing their MicroVAX line > and thereby discontinuing any non-risc Ultrix machines? Unless you count the fact that we've been discontining bit and pieces of the MicroVAX line for years. When was the last time you saw a new MicroVAX I? Or even a new MicroVAX II (except for specialized configurations). Actually if you look at the announcement many months ago of the VAX 4000 series there is a notable lack of the word Micro in front of VAX. When you consider that the "low end" systems are 6 or more times faster than 11/780 is doesn't seem fair to call them "MicroVAX". I think the current low end systems are the MicroVAX 3000s (3100, 3400, 3800, 3900). Perhaps recent history can be used to predict when these will be retired. Now, I'm not sure what the retirement (the word we use) of the MicroVAX II based systems has to do with non-RISC ULTRIX systems. About the only VAX systems ULTRIX isn't supported on is the 11/725, 11/730, 11/782 and VAX 4000. The last one is the interesting one of course. ULTRIX isn't support on the VAX 4000. I believe the reason is that it isn't interesting compared to corresponding DECsystems. Unless you HAVE to HAVE a VAX, the DECsystem 5500 is as good or better a choice then the VAX 4000. For the bigger systems all the VAX 6000 series is supported (-500 models in V4.2 I believe). And for those interested in serious VAX VUPS or vector capabilites the VAX 9000 is supported. VAX workstations are probably a different story. Compared to the DECstation 5000 I don't think any of the current VAX work- stations are interesting, but that's just my opinion. About the only workstation that support is missing for is the SPX versions of the VAXstation 3100s. All of this is idle speculation on my part of course. What is and is not supported in the future is dependent on the Product Manager and the customers that keep them informed. > > Thanks > -- > Rex Fowler <rmfowler%texrex@cirr.com> > UUCP: egsner!texrex!rmfowler -- Alan Rollow alan@nabeth.cxn.dec.com
juh@qt.IPA.FhG.de (Juergen Henke) (03/29/91)
In article <2841@shodha.enet.dec.com> alan@shodha.enet.dec.com ( Alan's Home for Wayward Notes File.) writes: >In article <1991Mar29.022854.13827@texrex.uucp>, rmfowler@texrex.uucp (Rex Fowler) writes: >> Has anyone else heard that DEC will be discontinuing their MicroVAX line >> and thereby discontinuing any non-risc Ultrix machines? > [...] > VAX workstations are probably a different story. Compared to > the DECstation 5000 I don't think any of the current VAX work- > stations are interesting, but that's just my opinion. About > the only workstation that support is missing for is the SPX > versions of the VAXstation 3100s. > > All of this is idle speculation on my part of course. What > is and is not supported in the future is dependent on the > Product Manager and the customers that keep them informed. >-- >Alan Rollow alan@nabeth.cxn.dec.com One thing DEC should consider: there are a customers (like us ;-), which have to stay at VMS (because of existing Software, which is not yet or will never be ported to Ultrix) at the moment, but want to switch over to "open" systems as soon as possible - with this statement, i heared on a PID at the CeBIT fair: "We have two families of workstations: RISC with Ultrix and VAX with VMS" this will be hard (and DEC won't sell us a VAXstation anymore :-( )... Juergen P.S.: Please don't tell me about POSIX in VMS ... :-( -- _________________________________________________________________________ Juergen Henke, e-mail juh@qt.IPA.FhG.de, PSI-mail PSI%4571109306::JUH_IPA Fraunhofer-Institut f. Produktionstechnik u. Automatisierung Eierstrasse 46, D-7000 Stuttgart 1
mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles P. Mok) (03/30/91)
In article <1991Mar29.022854.13827@texrex.uucp>, rmfowler@texrex.uucp (Rex Fowler) writes... >Has anyone else heard that DEC will be discontinuing their MicroVAX line >and thereby discontinuing any non-risc Ultrix machines? > >Thanks >-- >Rex Fowler <rmfowler%texrex@cirr.com> >UUCP: egsner!texrex!rmfowler Definitely a rumor and nothing more than that. Furthermore Ultrix runs on almost the entire VAX family, not just the MicroVAX. Charles --- Charles Mok/Digital Equipment Corporation INTERNET: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com UUCP: ....!decwrl!fortsc.dec.enet.com!mok ---