joel@cfctech.UUCP (Joel Lessenberry) (01/03/90)
Does anyone know of a program (preferably for IBM PC) for
creating/printing high quality TABLATURE (not standard notation)
Ideally this would allow for varying number of strings and
maybe even chord diagrams.
I lot of folk/blugrass/and even jazz types are more familier with
TAB than standard notation, and good TAB shows things standard
notation doesn't.
thanks
joel
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In article <19281@cfctech.UUCP> joel@cfctech.UUCP (Joel Lessenberry) writes: > > Does anyone know of a program (preferably for IBM PC) for > creating/printing high quality TABLATURE (not standard notation) > > [stuff deleted] > I lot of folk/blugrass/and even jazz types are more familier with > TAB than standard notation, and good TAB shows things standard > notation doesn't. > -for instance? BTW: Fredrick Noad was putting out a program for the ST that converted TAB to standard. -kevin ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu
camilleg@microsoft.UUCP (Camille GOUDESEUNE) (01/13/90)
In article <5244@blake.acs.washington.edu> ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) writes: >In article <19281@cfctech.UUCP> joel@cfctech.UUCP (Joel Lessenberry) writes: >> >> TAB than standard notation, and good TAB shows things standard >> notation doesn't. >> > -for instance? > I'm no guitarist, nor can I read tablature. But I do know that the same pitch has different timbres on different strings; TAB shows where the strings are stopped, which is more precise than merely what notes to play. Unless, of course, you put some kind of fingering on the standard notation, which is what violin scores have. Having strings tuned a fifth apart instead of only fourths and thirds makes it a tad more obvious which string to stop with a given finger to get a given pitch: one position will be (mildly) comfortable, the others ridiculous. TAB probably has other glerps specific to guitars, but I'll leave their explanation to someone else instead of trying to deduce their existence from "I think, therefore I am", rice pudding, and income tax. Camille Goudeseune.
ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) (01/14/90)
In article <10251@microsoft.UUCP> camilleg@microsoft.UUCP (Camille GOUDESEUNE) writes: >In article <5244@blake.acs.washington.edu> ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) writes: >>In article <19281@cfctech.UUCP> joel@cfctech.UUCP (Joel Lessenberry) writes: >>> >>> TAB than standard notation, and good TAB shows things standard >>> notation doesn't. >>> >> -for instance? >> > le>I'm no guitarist, nor can I read tablature. But I do know that the same >pitch has different timbres on different strings; TAB shows where the >strings are stopped, which is more precise than merely what notes to play. >Unless, of course, you put some kind of fingering on the standard notation, >which is what violin scores have. Having strings tuned a fifth apart >instead of only fourths and thirds makes it a tad more obvious which >string to stop with a given finger to get a given pitch: one position >will be (mildly) comfortable, the others ridiculous. >TAB probably has other glerps specific to guitars, but I'll leave their >explanation to someone else instead of trying to deduce their existence >from "I think, therefore I am", rice pudding, and income tax. > > Camille Goudeseune. The same points you make about violin hold for guitar too! I make a living playing guitar: classical concerts, jazz and rock studio work... recently, i did several NINTENDO commercials in the heavy metal style.... in all cases, a piece of music with standard notation was placed in front of me. Most classical guitar arrangements are heavily imbued with fingerings dictating precisely which string is to be used.. in addition to which finger. A very simple "standard" : an encircled number denotes the string, a non-encircled number denotes left hand finger... the letters p i m a denote fingers of the right hand. Notes without fingerings are usually rather obvious. Of course, the fingerings are the editor's/author's "arrangement". ... subject to change according to the artistry of the player. In this case.. i see absolutely no advantage to learning to read tablature to the exclusion of standard notation.. as far as i can see, there is no advantage to it... and there are plenty of disadvantages... Most early music written for the lute has been transcribed to standard notation. The only music i ever see written in tab today are heavy metal solos.. (excluding banjo and other string instruments)... and in most cases, those solos are also written in standard. The advantage to reading standard is quite obvious... there's a world of "literature" there to be enjoyed. ALso, if one composes, the composition may be understood by non-tab readers.. ie. non guitarits. I think tab takes the same effort to learn to read as does standard. Editing fingerings on *standard* notation seems to be cleaner than on tab: a simple numerical change makes things very clear. .. on tab, however.. one has to redraw the note.. and if the music is ink... good luck.. with standard not., multiple arrangements can be seen clearly... often, when i am arranging a piece for classical guitar... it may be a transcription from piano or cello .. ( try finding tab for those instruments!) ... i will write several choices of strings above a certain note ... the note value and pitch remain clear on the page, penciled in above may be a few circled numbers... i guess i am going overboard with this... but i have a very strong aversion to guitarists learning tab.. most of those who do learn tab.. ONLY read tab... as a result, the guitarist is EXTREMELY limited... this deepens, spreads.. whatever the notion that guitarists are lousy musicians.. and in fact.. this is an accurate and general assumption. Most tab-guitarists are very naive when it comes to music literature.. and it shows in their playing. I encourage guitarists to learn to read standard notation, learn to understand the very simple fingering notation.. and get knee deep in the incredible amount of literature out there.. from bach to be-bop and beyond! -kevin ramsiri@blake.acs.washington.edu