jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) (07/24/90)
Hi.
Has anyone used the Anatek's Pocket Pedal?
If you did, what do you think about them?
I would like to use it to do some real time midi control and I
would like to know how well they respond using a regular volume pedal?
ThanX
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================================================================================ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer) (07/25/90)
In article <7963@fy.sei.cmu.edu> jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) writes: >Has anyone used the Anatek's Pocket Pedal? >If you did, what do you think about them? > JUN LEE I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require active electronics. Where do they get thier power? I assume they have built in batteries, but how long do they last? Do you throw out an $80 pocket merge after a few months of heavy use? Seems to me that it would have been better just to put a battery slot in there so these products will last. I dunno, this is all speculation on my part. Does anyone who's actually used one of these "pocket" products have any comments? Ed Federmeyer (ed@iitmax.iit.edu) -- +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Ed Federmeyer | Internet: ed@iitMax.iit.edu | | "Unauthorized access is | Bitnet: sysed@iitVax | | strictly unauthorized." | Office: (312) 567-5981 | +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) (07/25/90)
In article <4028@iitmax.IIT.EDU>, ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer) writes: > In article <7963@fy.sei.cmu.edu> jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) writes: > >Has anyone used the Anatek's Pocket Pedal? > >If you did, what do you think about them? > > JUN LEE > > I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the > ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no > batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require > active electronics. Where do they get thier power? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ They get the power from Midi deviece it's hooked upto. I belive on of midi connectors carry +5 volts. > > Ed Federmeyer (ed@iitmax.iit.edu) ================================================================================ JUN LEE // \/\/\_/\_8> \\ // jol@sei.cmu.edu \X/ (412) 268-7602 "If it weren't for the disappointments in my life, I would not have any appointments at all" _ND ================================================================================
erkamp@arcsun.arc.ab.ca (Bob Erkamp) (07/25/90)
>>Has anyone used the Anatek's Pocket Pedal? >>If you did, what do you think about them? >> JUN LEE > >I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the >ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no >batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require >active electronics. Where do they get thier power? I assume they have >built in batteries, but how long do they last? Do you throw out an $80 >pocket merge after a few months of heavy use? Seems to me that it would have >been better just to put a battery slot in there so these products will last. > >Ed Federmeyer (ed@iitmax.iit.edu) >-- Well I don't know what the pocket pedal is/does put the pocket merge get's all it's power directly from the midi cables (I don't know the voltage used to drive midi but obviously it's enough). There was a reveiw in Keyboard a while back and they mentioned this. Bob Erkamp
igoe@refine.enet.dec.com (07/25/90)
In article <4028@iitmax.IIT.EDU>, ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer) writes... >In article <7963@fy.sei.cmu.edu> jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) writes: >I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the >ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no >batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require >active electronics. Where do they get thier power? I assume they have >built in batteries, but how long do they last? Do you throw out an $80 >pocket merge after a few months of heavy use? Seems to me that it would have >been better just to put a battery slot in there so these products will last. They do not have or require a battery. They operate off of the current in the MIDI cable itself. It is suggested that if you have more than one or two of the products in your system, that you but the PocketPower module which supplies extra power to avoid any effects on the MIDI data. The exception may be the sequencer thing which may actually have some sort of rechargable battery.
lau@cs.ubc.ca (Huh?) (07/25/90)
From article <4028@iitmax.IIT.EDU>, by ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer): > I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the > ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no > batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require > active electronics. Where do they get thier power? I assume they have > built in batteries, but how long do they last? Do you throw out an $80 > pocket merge after a few months of heavy use? Seems to me that it would have > been better just to put a battery slot in there so these products will last. > > I dunno, this is all speculation on my part. Does anyone who's actually used > one of these "pocket" products have any comments? I've been using a Pocket Channelizer from these guys for a few months and it works fine. It, like most of its cousins, pulls its power off the MIDI cable (MIDI IN to be exact). Except for, I think, two of the boxes (Pocket Sequencer and one other one I can't remember), all of the Pocket products draw power from the MIDI cable. I think there's a recommended maximum of 3 of these boxes that can be strung in series. The Pocket Channelizer remaps MIDI messages from one channel to another so my ancient Roland electric piano which send only on Channel 1 can be used to control instruments receiving on other channels. It has a lot other features like velocity switching between two channels, but my main usage is the channel remapping. Just a happy user, Eric Lau lau@cs.ubc.ca
johnk@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (John Kleist) (07/25/90)
In article <4028@iitmax.IIT.EDU>, ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer) writes: > > I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the > ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no > batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require > active electronics. Where do they get thier power? I assume they have > built in batteries, but how long do they last? Do you throw out an $80 > pocket merge after a few months of heavy use? Seems to me that it would have > been better just to put a battery slot in there so these products will last. > I don't know anything about the Pocket Pedal, but I've had a Pocket Merge for about a year. They derive their power from the the MIDI input device. There are no batteries involved. BTW the Pocket Merge works fine; even when merging sequenced wind controller stuff (lots of aftertouch messages). John Kleist johnk@loki.atmos.colostate.edu
rlw@ttardis.UUCP (Ron Wilson) (07/29/90)
In article <4028@iitmax.IIT.EDU>, ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer) writes: >I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the >ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no >batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require >active electronics. Where do they get thier power? I assume they have >built in batteries, but how long do they last? Do you throw out an $80 >pocket merge after a few months of heavy use? Seems to me that it would have >been better just to put a battery slot in there so these products will last. > >Ed Federmeyer (ed@iitmax.iit.edu) I have a Pocket Merge (tm). It gets power from one of the 2 MIDI inputs - I tested it by turning off one keyboard and then the other: input 1 can be played without input 2, but not 2 without 1 - ie: the unit get its power from the MIDI device connected to input 1. My guess is that the unit taps power accoss the + side of the 5ma current loop and the shield ground (according to the "official" suggested circuit designed, the + side goes via a 220 ohm resistor to +5, and the - side goes via an open collector logic output to signal ground; shield is supposed to ONLY be connected at the MIDI out jack) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We were wondering when somebody would discover that one." - The response of a customer support rep to a customer's phoned in bug report (name of company with held to protect the guilty). iwblsys\ rlw@ttardis uunet!rel.mi.org!cfctech!ttardis!rlw sharkey.cc.umich.edu/
nsw@cbnewsm.att.com (Neil Weinstock) (07/30/90)
In article <2613@ttardis.UUCP> rlw@ttardis.UUCP (Ron Wilson) writes: >In article <4028@iitmax.IIT.EDU>, ed@iitmax.IIT.EDU (Ed Federmeyer) writes: >>I have a broshure from Anatek that claims that thier products (at least the >>ones in this broushure, merge, pedal, filter, sequencer) require no >>batteries or power supply. These all seem like products that would require >>active electronics. [ ... ] >My guess is that the unit taps power accoss the + side of the 5ma current >loop and the shield ground (according to the "official" suggested circuit >designed, the + side goes via a 220 ohm resistor to +5, and the - side goes >via an open collector logic output to signal ground; shield is supposed to >ONLY be connected at the MIDI out jack) I just picked up a brochure from Anatek that lists all their pocket products. The only product that "requires" a battery is the Pocket Record, the 15000 event sequencer. Without battery, it will retain data for 4 hours (how? storage capacitor?), or indefinitely with battery. The Pocket Filter and Pocket Pedal will retain their settings only if continuous power is applied, either by leaving your equipment on all the time or by use of the Power Pack, which connects to an AC adapter and plugs into the MIDI chain, providing power to the Pocket products and boosting the MIDI signal. All in all, a very clever and nice collection of products. The Pocket Split even handles floating splits (my A-80 doesn't)! Not affiliated with Anatek, - Neil --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-- Neil Weinstock @ AT&T Bell Labs // "Bust a move short shank, att!edsel!nsw or nsw@edsel.att.com \X/ it's The Man!" - In Living Color