gray@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA (04/05/84)
From: Dr. Terry Gray <gray@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA> I need to find out about C compilers for IBM 370 architecture computers (370s, 4300s, 308x, Amdahl, etc.). Can anyone out there tell me about any known C compilers for these machines? I know about the AT&T C/370 compiler and, of course, Amdahl must have one in it's UTS. Can people supply me with any info on any others? Please reply to "gray@ucla-locus.arpa" Thanks. Terry Gray
ron@Brl-Tgr.ARPA (04/05/84)
From: Ron Natalie <ron@Brl-Tgr.ARPA> Stay away from the RSI C compiler with VMS. It doesn't work worth beans and RSI isn't interested in fixing up its most glaring problems. I understand that there is an MVS C compiler from Bell. I talked with AMDAHL about coming out with a VM/CMS vesion of the C compiler that they have inside UTS. They said they didn't plan it, but they were amazed that there was actually a non-trivial demand for a VM C-compiler. They may do something if enough people ask for it. -Ron
bet@ecsvax.UUCP (04/10/84)
I recently inquired about available C compilers for IBM system 370 running
OS/MVS, and came up with 2, plus another. The two are:
AT&T - $4000, ($400 for educational institutions) per CPU.
No maintenence, no support, but seems to be a mature,
stable product, implementing standard C with stdio.
Whitesmiths - $5000 (no known educational discount). Supported,
under developement, flagrantly non-standard I/O library.
The other is soon to be released (~ 1 month, they said), from U. of Waterloo,
$900. No details known, we are waiting to find out what it is like.
Unless Waterloo pans out well, it looks like AT&T is the definite choice.
Bennett Todd
...{decvax,ihnp4,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!betdmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) (04/13/84)
I used the AT&T C compiler for the 370 many years ago. Then, it had an I/O library that thought it was talking to OS/360, and the OS/360 calls were being emulated by CMS. I/O was very slow. Make sure that the AT&T current product has fixed this. The group at Waterloo that is doing the 370 C compiler is the Computer Systems Group, famous for WATFIV and similar things. I suspect that they will have a good compiler when they are done, but of course they're still working on it. I have never heard anything good about Whitesmiths compilers - the biggest complaint is about the nonstandard library, which makes all your "portable" programs unusable without changing them.
gwyn@brl-vgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) (04/18/84)
Although I have no financial interest in Whitesmiths, I have used their C (and Pascal) systems and would like to correct a misconception. A company called Plum-Hall offers a UNIX flavor of the C library for the Whitesmiths product, and the two should be ordered together. I was under the impression that Whitesmiths was going to make IDRIS conform to the /usr/group and/or UNIX System V standards, as well as change the C library to conform. I have not kept abreast of the latest developments from Whitesmiths, so this may not have happened or be happening...