jc@cdx39.UUCP (01/21/87)
Can someone out there explain to me how I might get mail
from a machine with only UUCP hookups to another machine
that is known to be on BITNET?
If it helps, some of our immediate neighbors are ARPAnet
sites, and we could bounce things through them.
For that matter, is there a good reference to teach all
about BITNET to a newcomer? I keep hearing things about
it, but so far nothing very factual, and I'm curious.
--
John M Chambers Phone: 617/364-2000x7304
Email: ...{adelie,bu-cs,harvax,inmet,mcsbos,mit-eddie,mot[bos]}!cdx39!{jc,news,root,usenet,uucp}
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Clever-Saying: If we can't fix it, it ain't broke.scott@utcs.UUCP (01/24/87)
In article <615@cdx39.UUCP> jc@cdx39.UUCP writes: >Can someone out there explain to me how I might get mail >from a machine with only UUCP hookups to another machine >that is known to be on BITNET? There is an official gateway at psuvax1. Try ...!psuvax1!site.bitnet!user >If it helps, some of our immediate neighbors are ARPAnet >sites, and we could bounce things through them. There is an arpa gateway at wiscvm.wisc.edu (although it leaves something to be desired) try: user%site.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu >For that matter, is there a good reference to teach all >about BITNET to a newcomer? I keep hearing things about >it, but so far nothing very factual, and I'm curious. I really don't know if there is or not... Most of what I know I discovered by trial and error (easier since I have bitnet access). There is a good article in the October 1986 issue of the Communications of the ACM about most of the major networks in the world including BITNET. If you do find a good reference please let me know about it... -- "I'm not paranoid... the world IS out to get me!" ...{utai, utzoo, decvax, ihnp4, cbosgd, utcsri, mnetor}!utcs!scott scott%utcs.toronto.edu@relay.cs.net scott@utoronto.bitnet Scott J.M. Campbell
devine@vianet.UUCP (01/27/87)
In article <615@cdx39.UUCP>, jc@cdx39.UUCP (John Chambers) writes: > > For that matter, is there a good reference to teach all > about BITNET to a newcomer? I keep hearing things about > it, but so far nothing very factual, and I'm curious. The 2 references that I've run across are: 1. John Quarterman's article in CACM from last fall (summer?). He describes the major nets and how to exchange mail between them. 2. IEEE Communications June 1986 the article is titled "Research Computer Networks and their Interconnection". Has an appendix showing how to send mail from one network to another. I don't know if the mailing gateways mentioned in either article are still the same. Bob Devine
kuo@skatter.UUCP (01/28/87)
In article <615@cdx39.UUCP>, jc@cdx39.UUCP (John Chambers) writes: > Can someone out there explain to me how I might get mail > from a machine with only UUCP hookups to another machine > that is known to be on BITNET? > It is easily done. You simply specify bitnet as through it is a domain name. Using my site as an example: mail sask!ihnp4!utorphys.BITNET!system My machine (skatter) talks only to sask so I have to first send my mail to it. Sask is connected to one of the backbone sites (ihnp4, also to alberta). And utorphys is a bitnet site, and I want to send mail to user system. It works but it is slow. Apparently the mail goes through a uucp-Bitnet gateway at Wisconsin and the routing takes up to 24 hours to get done. > If it helps, some of our immediate neighbors are ARPAnet > sites, and we could bounce things through them. > Don't think you need to make use of APRAnets. > For that matter, is there a good reference to teach all > about BITNET to a newcomer? I keep hearing things about > it, but so far nothing very factual, and I'm curious. > I know of NO reference on Bitnet meself. Maybe the system manager of each Bitnet site has some docs. but I have not seen them. Mostly I learn my stuff my hacking! > -- > John M Chambers Phone: 617/364-2000x7304 Hope this will get you to the Bitnet site you want! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Kuo Bitnet (VMS address) : KUO@SASK Accelerator Laboratory (UUCP address) : "skatter!kuo@sask.uucp" (a.k.a. The Beam Warehouse) Univ. of Saskatchewan uucp (unix address) : !ihnp4!sask!skatter!kuo Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Bitnet address) : !ihnp4!sask.BITNET!kuo CANADA S7N 0W0 Tel. (306) 966-6059 [Disclaimer: all the standard stuff.]
scott@utcs.UUCP (01/31/87)
In article <274@skatter.UUCP> kuo@skatter.UUCP writes: >In article <615@cdx39.UUCP>, jc@cdx39.UUCP (John Chambers) writes: >> Can someone out there explain to me how I might get mail >> from a machine with only UUCP hookups to another machine >> that is known to be on BITNET? > It is easily done. You simply specify bitnet as through > it is a domain name. Using my site as an example: > mail sask!ihnp4!utorphys.BITNET!system that should be: mail sask!ihnp4!psuvax1!node.bitnet!user the gateway from uucp to bitnet is at psuvax1 > Don't think you need to make use of APRAnets. You would be if you used the gateway at wiscvm (wiscvm.wisc.edu) thats the arpa-bitnet gateway. -- "I'm not paranoid... the world IS out to get me!" ...{utai, utzoo, decvax, ihnp4, cbosgd, utcsri, mnetor}!utcs!scott scott@utoronto.bitnet Scott J.M. Campbell scott%utoronto.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu
pal@murdu.OZ (Philip Leverton) (02/03/87)
In article <615@cdx39.UUCP> jc@cdx39.UUCP writes: >For that matter, is there a good reference to teach all >about BITNET to a newcomer? I keep hearing things about >it, but so far nothing very factual, and I'm curious. > A short discussion and description of BITNET can be found in the preprint SLAC-PUB-3705, "Status of Networking for High Energy Physics in the United States" by P.F. Kunz, dated June 1985. It was presented at the Conference on Computing in High Energy Physics, Amsterdam, The Netherlands, June 25-28, 1985. Other subject heading are DECNET, Coloured Books, MFENET, and Future US HEPNET. Phil Leverton -- Philip Leverton (Postgrad, Dept. of Physics, University of Melbourne) ACSnet: pal@murdu CSNET: pal%murdu.oz@australia Internet: pal%murdu.oz@seismo.css.gov UUCP: {seismo,hplabs,mcvax,ukc,nttlab}!munnari!murdu.oz!pal
kuo@skatter.UUCP (02/07/87)
In article <1987Jan31.133552.18662@utcs.uucp>, scott@utcs.UUCP writes: > In article <274@skatter.UUCP> kuo@skatter.UUCP writes: > >In article <615@cdx39.UUCP>, jc@cdx39.UUCP (John Chambers) writes: > > the gateway from uucp to bitnet is at psuvax1 > > > Don't think you need to make use of APRAnets. > > You would be if you used the gateway at wiscvm (wiscvm.wisc.edu) > thats the arpa-bitnet gateway. You may be right, but I have used my path (ie without specifying the psuvax1 gateway) and it works! I guess the system is smart enough to figure which gateway it should use (8-)). ... Peter/ uucp: {ihnp4, alberta}!sask!skatter!kuo