emrozek@ecsvax.UUCP (Ed Mrozek) (06/25/87)
I am in great need of your assistance. BACKGROUND I supervise a computer services operation. Currently, we are in the process of bring up electronic mail for nearly 1200 employees. The mail system is mailx on SVR2 with our own system of menus for seldom users. These people are scat- tered over the entire state at roughly 160 sites. At each site there is at least one ibm pc compatible which is being used as the terminal into the mail system. At present, we have assigned a user id for each person. The administration of the organization has argued that this should not be the case. They argue that there should be an id for the site. PROBLEM Basically, the administration views this system as a secre- tarial tool. As such, they would like to see secretaries manage the mail for all of the people at a given site. They hope to accomplish this by generating an id for the site and then letting the sec. do her thing. I argue that she can do this by means of our menu system. We have developed a facility called "mail manager" (mailmgr) that will allow a user to be registered as a mail manager for a site. This utility notifies the mail manager if the users that they support have received mail. There can be more than one mail manager per site. In order to access the mail for another user, the mail manager establishes a new shell through a utility which is basically a login to another session. In this other session, they become one of the other users with the mail. Through this mechanism, they maintain the ability to send/reply to mail with appropriate addressing on the to: and from: lines. Through a common mail box, this capability would be lost; a considerable disadvantage in *my* opinion. Here lies the problem; some people argue that login to another session is quite wasteful of time. Yes, the users are paying for their access time. (I have timed it and it takes approximately 15 seconds to login as another user). To *me*, the cost is minor. We pay $.12/minute for our in- state long distance during prime time and $.08/minute in the off-hours. Also, it appears to me that there will be no advantage (for line time) as a sec. will have a much more difficult time managing mail for upwards of 20 people through a common id. I base this on the opinion that the "folders" capability do provide true usefulness and that automatic send and reply addressing are useful functions. I have not yet considered what this could do to our news system (we are running netnews). HOW YOU CAN HELP If I am wrong about this whole thing, I would like you to tell me. If I am right, I would also like to know. If you have encountered a similar situation, I would like to know how you resolved it. If you have opinions on how this prob- lem can be addressed, I would like to hear them. Most of all, I need to know the technical details of the pros and cons of anything that you offer. This last request is most important as this whole situation could result in a major turnover in personnel. Lastly, time is of the essence. We are supposed to have the system up and running on July 1, 1987 (gulp!!!). We are nearly complete. However, emotions are running so high on this thing that the plug may get pulled on the project; at least until a solution to this is found. I apologize for the length of this posting and I thank you for your assistance. Ed Mrozek Supervisor, Extension Computer Services Box 7626 North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-7626 VOICE: (919) 737-2983 E-mail: emrozek@ecsvax P.S. Please respond by mail. I will summarize and post if there is interest.