todd@uhccux.UUCP (The Perplexed Wiz) (01/12/88)
Can someone tell me what kind of address (i.e., what network) something
that looks like
s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett@tor.uta.no
is? I tried responding to a piece of mail using various addresses in
addition to what you see above (e.g., s_helmersen@tor.uta.no.BITNET) with
no luck. I looked through the UUCP maps and BITNET node list and couldn't
find the site. I don't have access to an ARPA host table so I couldn't
check that. I include the header and tail of the message in the hopes that
someone can help me route mail after getting some kind of hint from the
information there...thanks...todd
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Dr. Per Helmersen
Univ. of Oslo
Inst. of Psychology
Box 1094, Blindern
0317 Oslo 3, NORWAY
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Todd Ogasawara, U. of Hawaii Faculty Development Program
UUCP: {ihnp4,uunet,ucbvax,dcdwest}!sdcsvax!nosc!uhccux!todd
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INTERNET: todd@uhccux.UHCC.HAWAII.EDUdpz@athos.rutgers.edu (David P. Zimmerman) (01/12/88)
In article <1427@uhccux.UUCP> todd@uhccux.UUCP (The Perplexed Wiz) writes: > Can someone tell me what kind of address (i.e., what network) something > that looks like > > s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett@tor.uta.no > > is? Well, I can verify that it certainly is an Internet site. tor.uta.no has the address 128.39.1.2, which showed up in the headers thus: > Received: from [128.39.1.2] by bass.nosc.mil (5.58/1.27) What is interesting is that bass.nosc.mil didn't know the name. In fact, neither did we, and a normal name lookup on it failed. However, a reverse lookup on 128.39.1.2 worked, and got the name into our lookup cache. The next time I looked up the name, I got the address back immediately, as would be expected. dpz -- Internet: dpz@rutgers.edu UUCP: rutgers!dpz Bitnet: zimmerman@zodiac
mikulska@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Malgorzata Mikulska) (01/15/88)
In article <560@athos.rutgers.edu> dpz@athos.rutgers.edu (David P. Zimmerman) writes: >In article <1427@uhccux.UUCP> todd@uhccux.UUCP (The Perplexed Wiz) writes: > >> Can someone tell me what kind of address (i.e., what network) something >> that looks like >> >> s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett@tor.uta.no >> >> is? > >Well, I can verify that it certainly is an Internet site. tor.uta.no >has the address 128.39.1.2, which showed up in the headers thus: > >What is interesting is that bass.nosc.mil didn't know the name. In >fact, neither did we, and a normal name lookup on it failed. However, > Of course it didn't, as the correct name is "tor.nta.no", not "tor.uta.no". ^^^ It is also known as "nta-vax.arpa", and is the gateway between ARPA Internet and the network "uninett" which is the national academic network in Norway (NOT part of BITNET; just another network). Margaret Mikulska ========================================= Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering University of California, San Diego ========================================= ARPA Internet : mikulska@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu UUCP: sdcsvax!mikulska =========================================
jacquemi@thor..arpa (michel jacquemin) (01/15/88)
I am looking for e-mail access to the LETI (Laboratoire d'Electronique et de Traitement de l'Information) in Grenoble, France. I have access to UUCP, ARPA, BITNET and CSNET directly but I know this lab isn't connected to any of these four. The only thing I know is that this lab has a VAX on PSI with X25 number 2080-38021201. Can anyone give me a clue on what this means and if there is any way to transmit messages to the LETI. Please reply directly to me. Thanks,
lamy@ai.toronto.edu (Jean-Francois Lamy) (01/22/88)
In article <1427@uhccux.UUCP> todd@uhccux.UUCP (The Perplexed Wiz) writes: >Can someone tell me what kind of address (i.e., what network) something >that looks like > > s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett@tor.uta.no > "no" is a *domain* (Norway), and as such, can contain machines from many networks (just like .com contains machines not on the Internet). Indeed, tor.uta.no is the name of the gateway to the old uninett, a X.400 network (X.400 is a ISO standard). One would expect that after the transition is complete something like user@use.uio.no would work directly. Meanwhile, you can try adding a second gateway explicitly, as follows s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett%tor.uta.no@relay.cs.net Assuming that relay.cs.net indeed relays mail to "no" -- can't check easily, as we have a direct X.400 link, but am pretty sure it does -- the address you gave should have worked from an ARPA site running a name server. relay.cs.net would have responded to a query from your name server. This may be a case of "update your software". A sure test is for you to try to reply to me. If you can't reach ai.toronto.edu without pasting a @relay.cs.net, you are out of date... Jean-Francois Lamy AI Group, Department of Computer Science lamy@ai.toronto.edu University of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 uunet!ai.toronto.edu!lamy
fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) (01/25/88)
In the referenced article, lamy@ai.toronto.edu (Jean-Francois Lamy) writes:
"no" is a *domain* (Norway), and as such, can contain
machines from many networks (just like .com contains machines
not on the Internet). Indeed, tor.uta.no is the name of
the gateway to the old uninett, a X.400 network (X.400 is
a ISO standard).
Uh, sorry, X.400 is a CCITT standard - they're different from the ISO.
Meanwhile, you can try adding a second gateway explicitly,
as follows
s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett%tor.uta.no@relay.cs.net
Assuming that relay.cs.net indeed relays mail to "no" --
can't check easily, as we have a direct X.400 link, but am
pretty sure it does -- the address you gave should have
worked from an ARPA site running a name server.
Actually the name of the site is
tor.NTA.no
which is the Norwegian Telecommunications Administration (Televerke).
They're a SATNET site (Class A network 4; CSNET has nothing to do
with it at all) about 10km outside of Oslo, Norway. NTA is on the
Internet for real through the good graces of a satellite in
geosynchronous orbit above the Atlantic Ocean. They are a domain
server site too, for the "no" domain.
So, to really make that address work right, it should read:
s_helmersen%use.uio.uninett@tor.nta.no
UIO is the University of Oslo, which is also in the Internet,
through a leased line to NTA (see "ifi.uio.no").
Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edulamy@ephemeral.ai.toronto.edu (Jean-Francois Lamy) (01/27/88)
In article <22725@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) writes: >Uh, sorry, X.400 is a CCITT standard - they're different from the ISO. > [...] >Actually the name of the site is > tor.NTA.no > [...] >They're a SATNET site (Class A network 4; CSNET has nothing to do >with it at all) Correct on all counts. My mouth has a distinct foot aftertaste :-). Seen so many cases of "mail to ai.toronto.edu bounces 'cause you're not in the hosts file" that I had a pavlovian response -- try through relay.cs.net and update your software. Their name server is usually reliable and knows about so-called "strange" domains like kr, il, fr, ca, so the heuristic may still be useful. >From a demoted member of the local branch of "!%@ E-mail address consultants inc.", now on leave without pay pending review of his file. Pay? what pay? Jean-Francois Lamy AI Group, Department of Computer Science lamy@ai.toronto.edu University of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 uunet!ai.toronto.edu!lamy
cksmith@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher Smith) (01/30/88)
Now that I'm here in usenet, I have a couple of contacts I'd like to reach via 'usenet' mail. How do I find the addresses of these people? Does any- one know the path for Purdue University in W. Lafayette IN? Or the path for University of Michigan? Any help anyone could give would be greatly appreciat- ed. Thank you.
cksmith@bsu-cs.UUCP (Christopher Smith) (01/31/88)
In addition to a path to University of Michigan, does anyone know of the address to Whirlpool Corp. in Benton Harbor, MI? Or is there one? Many thanks!