ccjoan@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Joan Gargano) (01/20/88)
I posted a request for information to the net the week before
Christmas regarding information on Dialmail, Envoy 100,
OnNet/ScienceNet and ONTYME. Thank you to everyone who sent
information.
Annette DeSchon and Jon Postel have put together an very nice
document, "Mail Forwarding Between Telemail and Arpa-Mail Using
Intermail". The document is about six pages long so please contact me
or Annette DeSchon for a copy, DeSchon@B.ISI.EDU, 1-213-822-1511.
Here is a summary of the responses.
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Russ@11.DAS.NET or at (408) 559-7970.
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The DASnet(R) Network--DASnet Subscriptions:
A DASnet Subscription allows you to exchange electronic mail (e-mail)
with anyone on more than 15 systems and networks, INCLUDING:
ATT Mail, DASnet(R) Network, DCMETA, Dialcom(SM), EIES,
EasyLink(R), Envoy 100(TM), FAX, GeoMail, MCI Mail(R), NWI(R),
PeaceNet/EcoNet, Portal Communications(TM), The Source(R),
Telemail(R), ATI's Telemail (Japan), Telex, TWICS (Japan),
UNISON(R), UUCP, The WELL, Domains e.g. ".COM" and ".EDU".
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DA Systems, Inc.
1503 E. Campbell Ave.
Campbell, CA 95008
408-559-7434
TELEX: 910 380-3530
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From: mcvax!hafro.IS!eirikur@uunet.UU.NET (Eirikur T. Einarsson)
Organization: Marine Research Institute, Reykjavik
There is no gateway to DIALMAIL. You have to have a password which you
can only use for that system. I asked the DIALMAIL people a year ago
if they would make it possible to send mail into DIALMAIL, then they
said that they did not have any intentions to make that possible in the
near future.
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 1987 3:24 PM EDT Msg: MGIH-3120-8073
From: OMNET.SERVICE
To: MRI.Iceland.Library
Subj: Envoy 100
Interface Info
It is possible to communicate with a number of organizations outside Omnet
using GTE Telemail systems in other countries, as well as the U.S.
These include Envoy, Edunet, NASAMail, GSFCMail, and J.P.L. Exchanging
messages between the MAIL (where Omnet is located) and TELEMAIL branches of
the network is actually quite easy. You simply address a message as usual,
but the address must contain extra information in a special format for the
message to be properly routed. Using the correct format is the key to a
successful 'interface'. Here is the basic format:
[username/organization] system branch/country
The system branches are:
MAIL/USA - The system that SCIENCEnet is on
TNET.TELEMAIL/USA - Many GTE personnel are on this system
TELEMAIL/USA - Includes much of NASA
GTEMAIL/USA - More GTE personnel
TM11/USA - US Dept. of Agriculture system
GSFC/USA - Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA
TELECOM/CANADA - The Envoy 100 service
ATI/JAPAN - The Japanese ACE system
PIPMAIL/TAIWAN -
TBXSPA/SWEDEN -
ITALMAIL/ITALY -
The only tricky part is finding out which organization the person you're
trying to reach is on. Some possibilities are:
NASA (Telemail system)
J.P.L. (Telemail system)
GSFCmail (GSFC system)
TELENET (TNET.Telemail system)
Once you have discovered this, you can easily address the message. For
someone on NASAnet for example, you address your message like this:
[JDOE/NASA] TELEMAIL/USA
Sending to someone on the Canadian Envoy 100 system would mean using an
address with the following format:
[ANortherner/organization] Telecom/Canada
Unfortunately, there's no way of doing intersystem directories, so you'll have
to get the correct information from the colleague that you're trying to reach.
Someone sending a message to you would type:
[MRI.Iceland.Library/OMNET] MAIL/USA
The square brackets are very important to include, as well as the correct
spacing.
Please note that different organizations follow different formats. Omnet
usernames (unless institutional acronyms) follow the format: first initial,
period, last name. NASA organizations omit the period.
NETWORK CONNECTIONS
+-----------------+ +------------------+
| | | |
| | | NETNORTH |
| UUCP | | |
| | +------------------+---------------------+
| | | BITNET | EARN |
| | | | |
| | | | |
+-----------------+ +------------------+---------------------+
| | | |
...!uunet | | ...!seismo | |
| | | |
[G] [G] | CUNYVM.BITNET |
| | SEISMO.CSS.GOV | |
| +-------------+ [G] | UKACRL
| | | |
+----------------+ | | CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU [G]
UUNET.UU.NET | | | |
| | | | UK.AC.RL
| | | |
+---------------------+ |
| | |
RELAY.CS.NET | | |
+------------| | NSS.CS.UCL.AC.UK|
| | |------------[G] |
[G] | | UK.AC.UCL.CS.NSS|
| | ARPA/NSF | | |
RELAY.CS.NET | | INTERNET | | |
+--------------+ | | +--------------+
| | | | | |
| | | | | |
| CSNET | | | | JANET |
| | +---------------------+ | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
+--------------+ | +--------------+
Intermail@C.ISI.EDU |
|
+---------+
+---------------------|Intermail|---------------+
| +---------+ |
[Intermail/USCISI] Telemail/USA | |
| | 64:CMP0817
| 107-8239 57:NSF153
| | 50:ONR143
TELEMAIL | |
+----------------+ +----------------+ +--------------+
| | | MCIMAIL | | DIALCOM |
| MAIL | | | | |
| OMNET | | | | |
| GTE | | | | |
| NASA | | | | |
| TELENET | | | | |
| GSFCMAIL | | | | |
+----------------+ +----------------+ +--------------+
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From: E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu
Organization: USENET Protocol Police, Western Gateway Division
ONTYME is a commercial, central Email service offered by
TYMNET (a subsidiary of McDonnel-Douglas Corp.). Your nearest TYMNET
salesman should have the relevant literature.
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Norman Soley - Data Communications Analyst - Ontario Ministry of the Environment
From uunet!mnetor!ontmoh!ontenv!norm
ENVOY 100 is a paid service, if a direct uucp <--> ENVOY gateway
exists it is very unlikely that the bill payer would publicize the
gateway as cost would be prohibative. However Bell Canada has just
enhances ENVOY 100 (it is now called ENVOY MHS) to comlpy with at
least some of the levels of X.400 and concurrently added a gateway
between ENVOY and ATTMAIL, this is currently in Beta test (so I'm lead
to believe by Bell). ATTMAIL is uucp-able but it too is a paid service
so I think that they require that you phone them directly, there was a
discussion about this recently on the net under the guise of a TELEX
to uucp gateway.
--
Joan Gargano * Univ. of Calif., Davis, Computing Services * (916) 752-2591
Internet jcgargano@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu
BITNET jcgargano@ucdavis
UUCP {ucbvax, lll-crg, sdcsvax}!ucdavis!jcgarganoearle@jplopto.uucp (Greg Earle) (01/20/88)
There exists a direct gateway between Telemail and UUCP/Internet mail, but I am duty-bound not to disclose it, as the owners would not appreciate the resultant mail traffic (they provide the gatewaying as a service to the Governmental Agency that needs it, not as a general function. Hint: It's not any JPL site, so don't waste time trying). There may or may not be others ... Greg Earle earle@jplopto.JPL.NASA.GOV Indep. Sun consultant earle%jplopto@jpl-elroy.ARPA [aka:] Rockwell Science Center earle%jplopto@elroy.JPL.NASA.GOV Thousand Oaks, CA ...!cit-vax!elroy!smeagol!jplopto!earle
thomas@gmdzi.UUCP (Thomas Gordon) (02/08/88)
in article <862@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, ccjoan@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Joan Gargano) says: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Russ@11.DAS.NET or at (408) 559-7970. > ===================================================================== > > The DASnet(R) Network--DASnet Subscriptions: > > A DASnet Subscription allows you to exchange electronic mail (e-mail) > with anyone on more than 15 systems and networks, INCLUDING: > ATT Mail, DASnet(R) Network, DCMETA, Dialcom(SM), EIES, > EasyLink(R), Envoy 100(TM), FAX, GeoMail, MCI Mail(R), NWI(R), > PeaceNet/EcoNet, Portal Communications(TM), The Source(R), > Telemail(R), ATI's Telemail (Japan), Telex, TWICS (Japan), > UNISON(R), UUCP, The WELL, Domains e.g. ".COM" and ".EDU". > > ===================================================================== > DA Systems, Inc. > 1503 E. Campbell Ave. > Campbell, CA 95008 > 408-559-7434 > TELEX: 910 380-3530 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I am interested in general information about MCI mail and ATT Mail. I have Usenet access, as you can see, but family and friends in the U.S. do not. It would be nice to exchange e-mail with them from Europe. It would be possible for me to directly subscribe to ATT or MCI mail but I would prefer some kind of gateway between Usenet and these other nets, so that I do not have to check another e-mail "box" each morning. Does DA Systems offer this kind of service? Can subscribers to MCI or ATT mail send me mail without requiring that I have a subscription to one of these services? What does DA Systems charge for their service, and who pays -- the person sending mail or the person receiving, or both? Are there other solutions available? Is DA Systems the only company offering this kind of service? Can anyone tell me how to get in contact with MCI or ATT to obtain more information about their e-mail services? Thanks for your help. Tom Gordon
PHil@cup.portal.com (02/10/88)
Portal offers full usenet and uucp net email access for $10/month flat rate all you can use. For more info, have them call 408/973-9111 voice during the day or 408/725-0561 with their computer and modem. Why pay more? $10/month all you can use! Plus Usenet access and much more. Access internationally to Portal is available through any public data network using the NUI of 311040800264 which is the Portal DTE address on Telenet. Online info is available by calling the 408/725-0561 number or calling any Telenet node and using "c portal" to connect.