[comp.mail.misc] simultaneous use of mmdf and sendmail

dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) (10/14/88)

We currently run sendmail and smail on our VAX-11/785 4.3BSD system.  I
am considering installing mmdf so it can exchange messages with pmdf
running on a VMS system.  I want to avoid removing sendmail entirely.

Has anybody tried using mmdf and sendmail+smail confurrently on the
same system, such that mmdf is used for some mail and sendmail for
others?  Is this feasible?

(I have the beta mmdf that was distributed with the 4.3BSD tape in the
Fall of 1986.  Does this work well, or is it essential to use a later
release?)

Our only connections with the outside world are via UUCP, in case this
is relevant.
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Rahul Dhesi         UUCP:  <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!dhesi

page@swan.ulowell.edu (Bob Page) (10/15/88)

You don't have to do anything as drastic as dismantle sendmail and
install mmdf.

Check out pmdf or cmdf for UNIX - they work with your existing
sendmail-based system.

Cmdf is a C version of pmdf.  I got mine from the folks at CSNET.

..Bob
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Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept.  page@swan.ulowell.edu  ulowell!page
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gore@eecs.nwu.edu (Jacob Gore) (10/16/88)

/ comp.mail.misc / dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) / Oct 14, 1988 /
>Has anybody tried using mmdf and sendmail+smail confurrently on the
>same system, such that mmdf is used for some mail and sendmail for
>others?  Is this feasible?

I have.  (Not smail, just mmdf & sendmail).

You can do it, as long as:

	1.  Either sendmail daemon or the mmdf smtp daemon, but not
	    both, are listening to the SMTP socket (not your problem,
	    since you are not using SMTP).

	2.  Either your users use mail/Mail/mailx, or msg/send (MMDF's user
	    interfaces), but not both (their mailbox formats are different).

Now, I was running them concurrently only while I was installing, testing and
learning MMDF; I was doing it with the intention to replace sendmail.  I
did not use MMDF as a production mail system during this period.  You will
probably need to perform some trickery to get sendmail and MMDF to path
mail through each other (different addresses, perhaps?), but I've got no
experience in that.  I suspect you can use a MMDF Program Channel to pipe
messages into sendmail, and MMDF's 'resend' or 'submit' to have sendmail
pipe messages into MMDF.

Jacob Gore				Gore@EECS.NWU.Edu
Northwestern Univ., EECS Dept.		{oddjob,gargoyle,att}!nucsrl!gore

ks@fb10vax.uucp (Kurt Schreiner) (10/16/88)

We once planned a mixed configuration of sendmail and mmdf. sendmail
should handle uucp and local smtp mail and mmdf should be used to
connect to a local Siemens BS200 system which runs an implementation
of pmdf using the phone-net protocoll to speak to another BS2000
system. I proposed to use only the phone-net delivery program as a
mailer to sendmail but the idea was never made reality because the
project was put to sleep.

I had looked through the sources of the phone master/slave programs
and imagined that it could be feasible to hack up phone to work with
sendmail but I've never tried out!

Hope this helps a bit! But I would be glad to get more information on
this subject too.

Kurt Schreiner

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