lenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) (10/25/88)
I have someone I would like to keep in touch with. He is working for
IBM in Florida, and says he has an account on IBM's VNET. Is there
a gateway from USENET, Internet, etc... to VNET. If so, what would
the syntax be and where would I mail.
Thanks,
Lenny
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ICUS Software Systems -- PO Box 1; Islip Terrace, NY 11752aad@stpstn.UUCP (Anthony A. Datri) (10/26/88)
I don't remember the specifics, but the last I heard, any mail going into or out of IBM's VNET had to be authorized ahead of time and have things set up on the gateway machine. -- @disclaimer(Any concepts or opinions above are entirely mine, not those of my employer, my GIGI, or my 11/34) beak is@>beak is not Anthony A. Datri @SysAdmin(Stepstone Corporation) stpstn!aad
aem@ibiza.Miami.Edu (a.e.mossberg) (10/26/88)
In <530@icus.islp.ny.us>, <lenny@icus.islp.ny.us> wrote: >I have someone I would like to keep in touch with. He is working for >IBM in Florida, and says he has an account on IBM's VNET. Is there >a gateway from USENET, Internet, etc... to VNET. If so, what would >the syntax be and where would I mail. to reach vnet: user%host@ibm.com (internet) aem a.e.mossberg - aem@mthvax.miami.edu - aem@mthvax.span (3.91) Democracy becomes a government of bullies, tempered by editors. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
davidc@umd5.umd.edu (David Conrad) (10/27/88)
From article <823@umbio.MIAMI.EDU>, by aem@ibiza.Miami.Edu (a.e.mossberg): >>IBM in Florida, and says he has an account on IBM's VNET. Is there >>a gateway from USENET, Internet, etc... to VNET. If so, what would > to reach vnet: > user%host@ibm.com > (internet) Well, yeah, but only if user has been authorized by the powers that be within IBM to accept mail from the outside world. This is usually the case only if 'user' is working for the research arm of IBM (e.g. San Jose or Yorktown). -drc
dave@arnold.UUCP (Dave Arnold) (10/29/88)
In article <530@icus.islp.ny.us>, lenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) writes: > I have someone I would like to keep in touch with. He is working for > IBM in Florida, and says he has an account on IBM's VNET. Is there > a gateway from USENET, Internet, etc... to VNET. If so, what would > the syntax be and where would I mail. Well, looking at the "Notable Computer Networks" article from Oct. 1986 of CACM (Volume 29 number 10), it says that From ARPA Internet: USERID@IBM.COM should work. or from UUCP: gateway!ibm.com!USERID%HOST This article is old, so I don't know if it's still valid. -- Dave Arnold (dave@arnold.UUCP) Work: Volt Delta Resources Phone: (714) 921-7635 Home: 26561 Fresno street, Mission Viejo, Ca 92691
composer@bucsb.UUCP (Jeffrey L. Kellem) (11/09/88)
In article <223@arnold.UUCP> dave@arnold.UUCP (Dave Arnold) writes: >In article <530@icus.islp.ny.us>, lenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) writes: >> I have someone I would like to keep in touch with. He is working for >> IBM in Florida, and says he has an account on IBM's VNET. Is there >> a gateway from USENET, Internet, etc... to VNET. If so, what would >> the syntax be and where would I mail. > >Well, looking at the "Notable Computer Networks" article from >Oct. 1986 of CACM (Volume 29 number 10), it says that > >From ARPA Internet: USERID@IBM.COM should work. > >or from UUCP: > >gateway!ibm.com!USERID%HOST > >This article is old, so I don't know if it's still valid. >-- >Dave Arnold (dave@arnold.UUCP) Well, the address from the ARPA Internet above will only work if the user has an account on that machine (ibm.com). If anything would work, the UUCP *might*; I've never tried it. But, you must know the name of the machine in VNET (IBM's internal network). As far as I know, if the user at IBM does not have access to a machine that has contact to the outside world, then you cannot reach him/her. At least I didn't see an immediate way to do it while I was employed there this summer. (Of course, I didn't check for UUCP or the Internet..so, who knows?) Jeff Kellem Internet: composer%bucsb.bu.edu@bu-cs.bu.edu UUCP: ...harvard!bu-cs!bucsb!composer
njs@scifi.UUCP (Nicholas J. Simicich) (11/09/88)
In article <223@arnold.UUCP> dave@arnold.UUCP (Dave Arnold) writes: >In article <530@icus.islp.ny.us>, lenny@icus.islp.ny.us (Lenny Tropiano) writes: >> I have someone I would like to keep in touch with. He is working for >> IBM in Florida, and says he has an account on IBM's VNET. Is there >> a gateway from USENET, Internet, etc... to VNET. If so, what would >> the syntax be and where would I mail. > >Well, looking at the "Notable Computer Networks" article from >Oct. 1986 of CACM (Volume 29 number 10), it says that > >From ARPA Internet: USERID@IBM.COM should work. ....... >This article is old, so I don't know if it's still valid. >-- >Dave Arnold (dave@arnold.UUCP) In actual fact, there is no ibm.com machine. ibm.com is actually a piece of software that runs on a machine in California, and figures out who the user actually is, and relays it. Only a few thousand IBM employees are actually registered. So, whereas njs@ibm.com will work for me, it won't work for most. Most of the employees who have net access work for the research division, since after all, these are research nets.. :-) UUCP gateways are available in a couple of places, but they won't relay mail to IBM in general, and the same sorts of restriction (internal userid and node must be known) applies to the bitnet gateway in Yorktown. The answer seems to be that unless this person is registered, there is no way to get there from here. Nick Simicich --- uunet!bywater!scifi!njs
mcardle@nvpna1.prl.philips.nl (Owen McArdle) (11/10/88)
In article <2150@bucsb.UUCP> composer@bucsb.bu.edu (Jeff Kellem) writes:
--the user has an account on that machine (ibm.com). If anything
--would work, the UUCP *might*; I've never tried it. But, you must
--know the name of the machine in VNET (IBM's internal network).
--As far as I know, if the user at IBM does not have access to a
--machine that has contact to the outside world, then you cannot
--reach him/her. At least I didn't see an immediate way to do it
Well I tried the UUCP mail address, with local VNET machine tacked in
in the proper place, and got a bounced reply from the mailer with a
message of the form :
"User <name> unknown, or not authorized to receive incoming mail",
so maybe there's a little more required from IBMs end - like willingness
to let people get IN. After last Xmas' 'joke' I can't really blame
them.
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