jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) (01/19/89)
I wrote a simple perl program to scan through my paths file (generated by pathalias) and my /usr/spool/news and find all articles that cannot be replied to by a routing mailer because either a) They are in the ".uucp" pseudo-domain but do not appear in the UUCP map, or b) The top-level domain they belong to does not appear in the UUCP map. I did this for Reply-To lines as well and got a much larger number of errors, primarily because, as shipped, rn wants to put ".UUCP" in your Reply-To header even if it's wrong. My program finds these (Stanford and Bellcore's machines put out a lot of theses, it seems) but I'm not listing them here. The following hosts appear in From: or Sender: lines as "user@host.uucp" but do not exist in the UUCP map (sys admins may want to send in a map entry): Athena QAOKIS aai1 aber-cs ajfcal antique anuck armada artsnet atexnet atreus augustus batcave beatnix beaver. broadway ccsrd11 ccssrv con concave corona.megatek corpane cpoint cps3xx cpsin3 creare.creare cstw01 csuna cvbnet2 cvman data donk dsn3b2 eagle_snax enelk estinc euler fajita faui49 flyer gpb6 hot_toddy hqpyr1.oracle i2ack ibmpa ichinen jive ka3ovk kahuna larry leibniz lite lloyd.camex mdiva1 milk10 mipos2 morgana mv7 nova.laic pisc2b postgres pro-generic pro-lls pttesac rabbit1 rake scotty sheerah shinytoy sns4 solaris sun604 sunseeker taux02 tolstoy ucms ultb ushiva warwick x102c yamnet zippy The following were listed as "user@host" without a .UUCP; they do not appear in the map either. aaifs apolling frodo heart-of-gold humpback janet ll-micro loligo pravda pyrps5 ragman sdchemg sybil NORUNIX The following are "miscellaneous oddities". Some are top-level domains that don't appear in the UUCP map. ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT V750.DecNet bilbo.locus cs.utexas.edu:carson cygnet.CYGNETSYSTEMS drivax.DRI handel.colostate.edu. hotlr.ATT maths.tcd.ie mitel.misemi msn015.misemi roadrunner.steinmetz sungoddess.steinmetz ti-csl.CSNET trub.steinmetz uk.ac.warwick.cs (this one escaped the magic "Brit-reversal" gateway!) vax1.tcd.ie -- - Joe Buck jbuck@epimass.epi.com, or uunet!epimass.epi.com!jbuck, or jbuck%epimass.epi.com@uunet.uu.net for old Arpa sites I am of the opinion that my life belongs to the whole community, and as long as I live it is my privilege to do for it whatever I can. -- G. B. Shaw
wisner@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Bill Wisner) (01/20/89)
> b) The top-level domain they belong to does not appear in the UUCP > map. So? What REALLY matters is whether the top-level domain (or second-level domain, as the case may be) is listed with the NIC. Send mail to SERVICE@SRI-NIC.ARPA and in the Subject: line put "NETINFO DOMAIN-INFO.TXT". >The following are "miscellaneous oddities". Some are top-level domains that >don't appear in the UUCP map. Again, that criterion is faulty. UUCP maps are not the ultimate authority on domains. (Although I will cheerfully admit that monstrosities like cygnet.CYGNETSYSTEMS are utterly bogus..) >handel.colostate.edu. The DNS strips trailing periods, so this name is theoretically valid.
karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) (01/20/89)
wisner@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Bill Wisner) writes: >handel.colostate.edu. The DNS strips trailing periods, so this name is theoretically valid. DNS, yes, but not SMTP. Witness a DEC-20 running MAISER: [67] [9:10am] tut:/n/dinosaur/0/karl> telnet osu-20 smtp Trying... Connected to osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu. Escape character is '^]'. 220-osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu SMTP Service 6.1(242) at Fri 20 Jan 89 09:39:42-EST 220 Bugs/Gripes to Bug-MAISER@PANDA.COM helo tut 250 osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu - Hello, tut.cis.ohio-state.edu mail from:<somebody@handel.colostate.edu.> >>>>> 500 Syntax error or field too long: mail from:<somebody@handel.colostate.edu.> quit 221 osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu Service closing transmission channel Connection closed by foreign host. This behavior is RFC-conformant. Names ending with `.' are no-nos. --Karl
jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) (01/21/89)
In article <6854@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> wisner@killer.Dallas.TX.US (Bill Wisner) writes: >> b) The top-level domain they belong to does not appear in the UUCP >> map. > >So? What REALLY matters is whether the top-level domain (or second-level >domain, as the case may be) is listed with the NIC. Perhaps I was unclear about my purpose. I want to be able to reply to all articles from my UUCP-only, registered domain gateway. I am interested in improving the accuracy of the UUCP map. The top-level domains for Italy and Ireland are not present and should be added. I was in no way implying that they are not legitimate. >Send mail to SERVICE@SRI-NIC.ARPA and in the Subject: line put >"NETINFO DOMAIN-INFO.TXT". I already have that file, Bill. >>The following are "miscellaneous oddities". Some are top-level domains that >>don't appear in the UUCP map. > >Again, that criterion is faulty. UUCP maps are not the ultimate authority >on domains. (Although I will cheerfully admit that monstrosities like >cygnet.CYGNETSYSTEMS are utterly bogus..) What criterion? I was only saying that registered UUCP-only sites using the UUCP maps and "smail" cannot reply to them, unless they use the "smart-host" mechanism to send any garbage addresses to somebody directly on the Internet. And that's a cruel thing to do. >>handel.colostate.edu. > >The DNS strips trailing periods, so this name is theoretically valid. Theoretically. But smail 2.5 chokes on it. -- - Joe Buck jbuck@epimass.epi.com, or uunet!epimass.epi.com!jbuck, or jbuck%epimass.epi.com@uunet.uu.net for old Arpa sites I am of the opinion that my life belongs to the whole community, and as long as I live it is my privilege to do for it whatever I can. -- G. B. Shaw
soley@ontenv.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) (01/21/89)
In article <2803@epimass.EPI.COM>, jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) writes: > > The following hosts appear in From: or Sender: lines as "user@host.uucp" > but do not exist in the UUCP map (sys admins may want to send in a map > entry): > > atexnet ccssrv cpoint cvman data estinc These were all recent postings to news.newsites, I suspect that their authors did not send a mail message to their local co-ordinator or the mapping project like they're supposed to. > leibniz There is a liebniz that's a ghost site in the att map, there was a duplicate liebniz in Ontario for a while that got its name changed it the process of posting a map. -- Norman Soley - Data Communications Analyst - Ontario Ministry of the Environment UUCP: uunet!attcan!lsuc!ncrcan!ontenv!soley VOICE: +1 416 323 2623 OR: soley@ontenv.UUCP " Stay smart, go cool, be happy, it's the only way to get what you want"