[comp.mail.misc] Summary of responses: DOS Email packages

aland@infmx.UUCP (Dr. Scump) (09/12/89)

In article <2124@infmx.UUCP> I wrote:
>A client is looking for an email package that will work for both
>DOS-UNIX and DOS-DOS (e.g., thru something like PC-NFS).  "Ideally,
>a UNIX mail workalike", so they say.  
>
>I'm sorry if this question is repeated dozens of times in the mail
>newsgroups, but I haven't been following 'em.  Please don't magnify
>this by following up; please *email* me any such recommendations.  
>If this subject hasn't been beaten to death and there is interest, I 
>will post a summary.  Thanks a bunch.

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 14:27:54 EDT
From: uunet!East.Sun.COM!geoff (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)

How about PC-NFS LifeLine Mail?

Geoff
-- 
Geoff Arnold,                              Internet: geoff@East.Sun.COM
PCDS Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 12:18:35 PDT
From: uunet!vortex!lauren (Lauren Weinstein)
Subject: DOS email, etc.
To: infmx!aland

Hi.  Our UULINK product provides DOS PCs with comprehensive UUCP
communications including file transfer, UUCP and domain mail, and
lots more.  It operates through modems or serial ports, so it could
well be appropriate for your client unless there is an absolute
requirement for LAN operations, since it is not an LAN-oriented
product.

If you'd like more information, please send me your mailing address
and we'll be glad to send out detailed info.  Thanks much.

--Lauren--
Vortex Technology
(213) 455-9300
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From: Jim Kissel <uunet!siesoft.co.uk!jlk>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 09:56:05  +0100
Subject: E-Mail for PC's

We have a RFC-1056 based pc<->unix mail system called EPS.  EPS is a
MS-Windows based front end with a mail repository on the Unix machine.
Sendmail interworks with the repository. RFC-1056 is the protocol over
tcp/ip that the EPS front end talks to the repository.  The product is
in alpha test at present and we expect beta sites to be setup in Europe
in lat October or early November, with a product release in English (US)
and German about Feb 1, 1990.

Jim Kissel                            Telephone +44 734 691994
Siemens plc                                         734 443046 (Direct line)
Systems Development Group             Fax       +44 734 698847
65-73 Crockhamwell Rd.                Telex      846053 SIESOF G
Woodley, Reading
Berkshire, RG5 3JP                    Domain     jlk@siesoft.co.uk
Great Britain                         UUCP       ....ukc!siesoft!jlk
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 22:38:23 PDT
From: uunet!tektronix.TEK.COM!gvgpsa.gvg.TEK.COM!davew (David C. White)
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

Try looking at PC/TCP from FTP Software, Inc.  I'm at home now
so I don't have their number available.  They have a good SMTP
implementation in their package.  If you can't find their number
let me know and I will send it to you.
-- 
Dave White	Grass Valley Group, Inc.   VOICE: +1 916.478.3052
P.O. Box 1114  	Grass Valley, CA  95945    FAX: +1 916.478.3887
Internet: davew@gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com     UUCP:  ...!tektronix!gvgpsa!davew
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Subject: Re: Email packages for DOS-UNIX and DOS-DOS
Organization: Shakedown St. Public Access Unix - New Brunswick, NJ
Date: 18 Aug 89 16:37:32 EDT (Fri)
From: uunet!allegra!althea!eddjp (Dewey Paciaffi)

There is a uucp workalike for MS-DOS called pc-uupc. You may be able to
find it in your favorite archive site. If not, marob, an archive in
NYC has it available for anon-uucp, if you're desparate enough to
make that call. I have it working between a Xenix/386 and a DOS PS/2.
It does mail (rmail) and can also be set up for rnews.

It's pretty neat. It assumes the master role OK, but looks to need
some hacking to get the slave side to work. Let me know if you can't
find it, and I'll e-mail you the particulars for 'marob'.
 
Dewey Paciaffi
eddjp@althea.UUCP
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 89 16:17:53  +0100
Subject: Re: Email packages for DOS-UNIX and DOS-DOS
Organization: Siemens SDG, Woodley, England
Status: RO

We are developing something that might just fit the bill. It is
called EPS (Electronic Postal System), and runs on PC's, but uses
a Unix box as the file store and mail driver. Ultimately, it will
incorporate X400 etc. Please mail me back if you want more info.

Jack Knight
jfk@siesoft.co.uk
...uunet!mcvax!ukc!siesoft!jfk
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Date: 	Tue, 29 Aug 89 10:36:22 EDT
From: uunet!dgbt.crc.dnd.ca!andrew (Andrew Patrick (DBR))
Organization: The Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, CANADA

I have been looking around for DOS-UNIX and DOS-DOS mailers as well.
Sun has a product (Lifeline) that works with PC-NFS and provides mail
to/from a PC using either the POP or SMTP protocols.  Under POP, mail
is held on the NFS server until it is requested by the client PC.

Although Lifeline gives most of the features I need, and it's DOS
interface is fairly good, I can't get it to work reliably on my
network.  We are running about 6 AT clones using 3C503 cards and a VAX
server.  Although PC-NFS's psuedodrives work fine, Lifeline seems to
be very buggy.  One is never sure when outgoing mail has been
delivered correctly, and it seems to hang the machines a lot.

Now we don't run our ATs in a "standard way" -- we use the Carousel
memory swapping environment and we have them "revved" up in other
ways.  People from Sun tell me my problems are unique, and other
people do not report such problems.

I am still looking for alternatives to Lifeline.  FTP software sells
its own version of NFS (called Interdrive) and they have mail support.
However, it seems to only use the SMTP model, which means that the PC
has to be waiting in SMTP mode when the server deamon fires up to send
mail.

The POP model seems like the best way to handle mail on the PC.  The
only other software I have seen that uses the POP model is put out by
Stanford Univ., but only to "qualified degree-granting institutions."

Please let me know what you find out.
-- 
Andrew Patrick, Ph.D.         Communications Research Centre
  (613) 990-4675              Department of Communications, Ottawa, CANADA
     UUCP or Internet: andrew@dgbt.crc.dnd.ca   BITNET: andrew@doccrc
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    Alan S. Denney  @  Informix Software, Inc.    
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dheller@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Dan Heller) (09/13/89)

I probably will regret doing this, but I figured it'll come out
sooner or later...

Mush has been ported to dos to use with uupc as the MTA.  It runs
on a small configuration (640K ram) pretty well.  It works fastest
on OS/2, apparently.  This is all info given to me by the person
who did the port.

Now, before you all rush out and mail me for the dos version -- I
have not integrated the DOS patches into the latest version since
several releases ago and altho nothing has been introduced that would
prevent another port from taking place, I have not had the time to
deal with this situation.

If enough interest is generated, I will mail the person who did the
port and ask if he wants to support the DOS version.
Dan Heller	<island!argv@sun.com>