[comp.mail.misc] Fidonet & Usenet

moodyblu@bucc2.UUCP (09/10/89)

Hello. I have a quesiton I am hoping someone can answer. I go to Bradley
Univserity in Peoria, IL and I operate a bulletin board in Detroit, MI.
My BBS is part of the FidoNet and I was curious on how I could get it to
link up to Usenet. I currently use SEAdog as my Fidonet mailer and I am
running TBBS software. If anyone has any ideas please respond to this   
message or send me mail. It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.



                 Matt Weisberg
                 - Sysop of Milliways TBBS
                 - (313) 553-9274 - Fido Addr: 120/16 -

ayp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Don Ault) (09/13/89)

In article <13600002@bucc2> you write:
>My BBS is part of the FidoNet and I was curious on how I could get it to
>link up to Usenet. I currently use SEAdog as my Fidonet mailer and I am
>running TBBS software. If anyone has any ideas please respond to this   

  Currently I run a FidoNET BBS and have links into USENET areas.  It requires
  an addition to mailer.  I myself run Binkley Terminal 2.20 which will allow
  my UUCP to send a string "@UUCP@" where upon binkley calls up the uucico.
  The package I use for the conversions is called UFGATE.ARC.  This package
  can be gotten via ftp from SIMTEL20.ARPA.  I will not guarantee you that it
  with the TBBS message format.  As to getting a link you will have to speak
  with those in your area...  Remember usenet feeds are just a privilage!

						
						Don Ault
						The AULTerNET Solution
						1:201/40  1:201/0
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pozar@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Pozar) (09/14/89)

In article <13600002@bucc2> moodyblu@bucc2.UUCP writes:
>Hello. I have a quesiton I am hoping someone can answer. I go to Bradley
>Univserity in Peoria, IL and I operate a bulletin board in Detroit, MI.
>My BBS is part of the FidoNet and I was curious on how I could get it to
>link up to Usenet. I currently use SEAdog as my Fidonet mailer and I am
>running TBBS software. If anyone has any ideas please respond to this   
>message or send me mail. It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

    You just said two of the magic words:
	FidoNet and USENET.

    Pardon the blurb...

	   Tim

    Shareware advert ahead...

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     UFGATE is a package that will move files, mail, and news-
groups back and forth between UUCP/USENET and MS-DOS machines.  
The package will gate between UUCP/USENET and FidoNet or you can 
just run the package stand-alone, effectively being a leaf site 
in UUCP/USENET.

     UFGATE runs on IBM-PC/XT/AT or PS/2 machines or compatibles. 
UFGATE will also work with MS-DOS or PC-DOS machines that are not 
100 percent IBM-PC hardware compatible with an appropriate FOSSIL 
(a communications device driver).  This is needed for the UUCICO 
clone, GNUUCP (aka. UUSLAVE).

     The GNUUCP program has been brought up to a full implementa-
tion of UUCICO with routines so it can run with the MS-DOS file 
structure.  You can initiate or receive UUCP connections and 
there is full support for l.sys files.  You can even use it with 
PC Pursuit.

     The package will handle the importing, exporting of UUCP 
messages, and also the automatic deletion of old USENET newsgroup 
messages.  UFGATE will also handle mail/newsgroups that have been 
either 12 or 16 bit compressed.

     UFGATE can handle either UUCP bang-style, ARPA/INTERNET 
domain style, or a hybrid of both.  It can also handle aliases 
for individuals or machine names.  Message forwarding is also 
built in.  UFGATE can handle multiple hosts.

     Message formatting, like the automatic appending of 
individual signature files, is supported.  

     Detailed debugging is available, so setup is easier.

     UFGATE is free to non-commercial, non-supported users.  If 
you are interested in support, which includes updates for a year, 
the Late Night Software telephone support service, and a hard 
copy of the manual, a $35 fee is asked.  If you are a commercial 
site, you will automatically get the support described above, and 
the manual for $195.  Support is available to all users via the 
UFGATE echo on FidoNet.

     You can download the UFGATE package from the Late Night 
Software BBS at:
		    +1 415 695 0759.
     
     Currently we have a 9600b/s V-Series Hayes modem.  The time 
to transfer the file (UFGATE.ARC) at 9600b/s is 10 minutes, or at 
2400b/s, it would be about 40 minutes.  
     
     We also accept floppies.  You can send either 360Kbyte or 
1.2Mbyte, five and a quarter inch floppies.  If you send 360Kbyte 
floppies, send four.  The package will fit completely on one 
1.2Mbyte floppy.  The floppies should be pre-formatted on your 
machine.
     
     Send the floppies in a standard floppy mailer with a return 
label, and return postage to:
	Late Night Software
	Tim Pozar
	671 28th Street
	San Francisco, CA 94131

     If you have further questions, you can write us at the above 
address, or call us at +1 415 695 7727, or write to the Email 
address below.

Internet: lns@f555.n125.z1.fidonet.org
    UUCP: ...!sun!hoptoad!fidogate!lns


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larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) (09/16/89)

>   Currently I run a FidoNET BBS and have links into USENET areas.  It requires
>   an addition to mailer.  I myself run Binkley Terminal 2.20 which will allow
>   my UUCP to send a string "@UUCP@" where upon binkley calls up the uucico.

Don - are you finding that the exporting/importing of mail to and 
from UFGATE requires manual editing of the messages due to the uucp
addresses being greater than 80 characters? 

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Larry Snyder                                              SCO Xenix 2.3.2 '386
uucp: iuvax!ndcheg!ndmath!nstar!larry                Computone Intelliport AT8
The Northern Star Usenet Distribution Site                    HST / PEP / V.22
Notre Dame, Indiana USA                            Home of the fighting Irish!

news@m2xenix.UUCP (news aka randy) (09/19/89)

In article <148@nstar.UUCP> larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) writes:
> are you finding that the exporting/importing of mail to and 
> from UFGATE requires manual editing of the messages due to the uucp
> addresses being greater than 80 characters? 

No, but the gate I run is fairly close to a well connected and mapped site,
which may help keep paths short.

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uunet!tektronix ----\
sun!nosun --------- qiclab ---- m2xenix!news    or    news@m2xenix.uucp
uunet!oresoft ------------------/                       (Randy Bush)

ayp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Don Ault) (09/20/89)

In article <391@m2xenix.UUCP>, news@m2xenix.UUCP (news aka randy) writes:
> In article <148@nstar.UUCP> larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) writes:
> > are you finding that the exporting/importing of mail to and 
> > from UFGATE requires manual editing of the messages due to the uucp
> > addresses being greater than 80 characters? 
> 
> No, but the gate I run is fairly close to a well connected and mapped site,
> which may help keep paths short.
> 

This is pretty much the case for me too.  I have 2 hops for a smartmailer
system.  Have you found a better uucico to use other than the one that
UFGATE is distribited with?  I have found the distribution uucico "weak"
due to the fact of examples use undocumented parameters, and the debug
levels are all or nothing.  This seems to make my new connects difficult
to establish.

				Don
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