david@monymsys.uucp (David Kozinn) (11/11/89)
In article <3881@ur-cc.UUCP> nsus_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Nicholas Leon Susch) writes: >Is there an internet link to GEnie? If there is, how do you use it? Thanks There have been a couple of VERY experimental links set up by individuals, but as yet there isn't anything that's available for public use. I believe that this is something that GEnie is very interested in doing, and you could probably expect to see something more official sometime soon. -- David Kozinn | UUCP: {rutgers | uunet}!cbmvax!cgh!monymys!david MONY Financial Services | UUCP: ...!rutgers!princeton!mccc!monymsys!david Glenpointe Center West | Internet: cgh!monymsys!david@manta.pha.pa.us Mail Drop 75-14 | GEnie: D.KOZINN Teaneck, NJ 07666-6888 | Telephone: +1-201-907-6990
dg@lakart.UUCP (David Goodenough) (11/15/89)
david@monymsys.uucp (David Kozinn) sez: > nsus_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Nicholas Leon Susch) sez: >>Is there an internet link to GEnie? If there is, how do you use it? Thanks > > There have been a couple of VERY experimental links set up by individuals, but > as yet there isn't anything that's available for public use. I believe that > this is something that GEnie is very interested in doing, and you could > probably expect to see something more official sometime soon. I mailed FEEDBACK at GEnie, and asked this very question. The response said (in effect) there is no link, but investigation is in progress for setting up something. NO GUARANTEE was given that a GEnie / Internet gateway would ever come into being. I guess that only time will tell. The main problem with an individual setting up a gateway is that the traffic would be rather large, and posting all the mail would require being online almost 24 hours a day. Much more efficient would be to hook into GEnie's system directly as has been done with CI$, and drop the stuff off with an Internet link. Here's hoping..... -- dg@lakart.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%lakart.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+
david@monymsys.uucp (David Kozinn) (11/20/89)
In article <748@lakart.UUCP> dg@lakart.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes: [stuff deleted] > >The main problem with an individual setting up a gateway is that the >traffic would be rather large, and posting all the mail would require >being online almost 24 hours a day. Much more efficient would be to >hook into GEnie's system directly as has been done with CI$, and drop >the stuff off with an Internet link. This is certainly one of the largest problems. Another consideration with going through an individual gateway involves security. Sure, any mail going out through the internet can easily be read, altered, etc. by anyone with the proper privs on any machine that it goes through, but I'm sure that GE's lawyers are closely studying the ramifications of passing relatively secure, private mail (originating on GEnie) out through the non-secure, non-guaranteed-delivery world of the internet. -- David Kozinn | UUCP: {rutgers | uunet}!cbmvax!cgh!monymys!david MONY Financial Services | UUCP: ...!rutgers!princeton!mccc!monymsys!david Glenpointe Center West | Internet: cgh!monymsys!david@manta.pha.pa.us Mail Drop 75-14 | GEnie: D.KOZINN Teaneck, NJ 07666-6888 | Telephone: +1-201-907-6990
tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) (11/21/89)
In article <1989Nov20.015352.4051@monymsys.uucp> david@monymsys.UUCP (David Kozinn) writes: > Another consideration with [a GEnie link] >going through an individual gateway involves security. Sure, any mail going >out through the internet can easily be read, altered, etc. by anyone with the >proper privs on any machine that it goes through, but I'm sure that GE's >lawyers are closely studying the ramifications of passing relatively secure, >private mail (originating on GEnie) out through the non-secure, >non-guaranteed-delivery world of the internet. Surely this is a non-issue. Just as with FAX and snail mail delivery options, once it's out GEnie's door their liability is at an end. They need do no more than make this clear in the Internet link documentation. The bottom line is, CIS and MCIMAIL do it, so GEnie will do it sooner or later to compete. Nevertheless a private gateway could be a real nuisance, as GEnie loses control over how the feature is being implemented. And while they may have little legal liability for gateway security and reliability, it's still in their competitive business interest to make any gateway the best it can be. Joe Schmoe noodling messages along as and when he feels like it does not put GEnie's best foot forward in the net.sweepstakes. I wouldn't be surprised if the biggest hurdle to a gateway right now were those gas-powered Victorian mainframes they use... -- "Of course, this is a, this is a Hunt, you | Tom Neff will -- that will uncover a lot of things. | tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET You open that scab, there's a hell of a lot of things... This involves these Cubans, Hunt, and a lot of hanky-panky that we have nothing to do with ourselves." -- RN 6/23/72