[comp.mail.misc] Getting to IBM

march@rocky2 (Gregory March) (11/22/89)

Several members of my family work for IBM. I was wondering if
there is some way I can send them mail from my internet account.
I know their internal machine name and tried composing their full
address like 'brother@<internal>.IBM.COM', but never got a response.
(I called them to see if they got mail - they didn't and I never got
a response saying the mail was undeliverable.)

I understand that for them to send mail to anyone else in IBM,
all they need is their internal machine and id. I figured that if
I got my message inside IBM, it would be routed properly.

I would appreciate any comments.

Greg

p.s. I hope IBM is brain-dead regarding their employees receiving
mail from "outsiders" :-)
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		      Laboratory of Neurobiology
		  Cornell University Medical Center
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pdn@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Paul Nanson) (11/22/89)

In article <368@rocky8.rockefeller.edu>, march@rocky2 (Gregory March) writes:
> 
> Several members of my family work for IBM. I was wondering if
> there is some way I can send them mail from my internet account.
> 
> [etc]
>     ==============================================================
> 			   Gregory F. March
> [etc]
 
Most IBM employees can not receive mail from Internet, Bitnet or CSnet,
although certain IBM machines have connections to these networks. 
All outside traffic flows through gateway machines with security filters
which only recognize authorized accounts.  Unless your relatives work
in the IBM Research Division, they probably have no IBM access to the
Internet.

-- 

Paul Nanson 

schriste@uceng.UC.EDU (Steven V. Christensen) (11/22/89)

march@rocky2 (Gregory March) writes:


>Several members of my family work for IBM. I was wondering if
>there is some way I can send them mail from my internet account.
>Greg

I worked for IBM in Boca Raton, FL for about a year, before I got
really interested in the Internet. I knew what it was, though.
I had an account on one of their VM/CMS systems, and asked what
I had to do to be able to access the internet. 
I was told basically that unless I was a personal friend of the
CEO or had a _dire_ need to do it (i.e. relating to a _very_
important project), that it was *impossible* (emphasis *theirs*).
I know that only a few of their hundreds of systems are actually
directly reachable from the internet (Yorktown comes to mind), but
I am relatively confident that those machines are _very_ efficient
at only letting through authorized messages.

	Steven

>p.s. I hope IBM is brain-dead regarding their employees receiving
>mail from "outsiders" :-)

No such luck....-- 
Steven V. Christensen
U.C. College of Eng.
schriste@uceng.uc.edu

njs@scifi.UUCP (Nicholas J. Simicich) (11/28/89)

In article <368@rocky8.rockefeller.edu> march@rocky2 (Gregory March) writes:
>p.s. I hope IBM is brain-dead regarding their employees receiving
>mail from "outsiders" :-)

I've heard that plans are afoot to improve the situation.  In any case,
the poster who noted that you need specific permission to get and send 
external email is correct.


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