dtb7684@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.T. Bracke) (02/08/90)
2-14-1990
Hi,
This file was recieved from a bbs in Austin, Tx.
after reading this over, and thinking about it for a bit, I
concluded that it just might work. I have given a new
wrinkle to it, however. It has occured to me that if one is
truly building a mailing list, then one needs to utilize
that list. In order to do this, and create a list that is
useful, somewhat more information is needed than just the
name and address. I have added a short questionaire. All
responses other than the name and address are optional, but
in order for this to truely work, are needed.
Sincerely,
Woody Baker.
Dear Friend,
My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was
reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you
wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks
had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of
failure was my Apple computer and my modem. I longed to
turn my advocation into my vocation.
This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day
cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH
in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the
West Coast of Florida, with a private pool, boat slip, and a
beautiful view of the bay from my breakfast room table and
patio. I will never have to work again. Today I am rich! I
have earned over $400,000.00 (Four Hundred Thousand Dollars)
to date and will become a millionaire within 4 or 5 months.
Anyone can do the same. This money making program works
perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed
to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best of all
you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or
post office.
In October 1988, I received a letter in the mail
telling me how I could earn $50,000 dollars or more whenever
I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the
letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though,
when you are desparate, backed into a corner, your mind does
crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the
want ads for a job with a future. The pickings were sparse
at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my
Apple computer and calling several bulletin boards. I read
several of the message posts and than glanced at the letter
next to the computer. All at once it came to me, I now had
the key to my dreams.
I realized that with the power of the computer I could
expand and enhance this money making formula into the most
unbelievable cash flow generator that has ever been created.
I substituted the computer bulletion boards in place of the
post office and electronically did by computer what others
were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed
manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to
other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe
that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have
waited for all your life, simply follow the easy
instructions below. Your dreams will come true.
Sincerely yours,
Dave Rhodes
INSTRUCTIONS
Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you
will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours.
This program has remained successful because of the honesty
and integrety of the participants. Please continue its
success by carefully adhering to the instructions.
Welcome to the world of Mail Order! This little business is
a little different than most mail order houses. Your product
is not solid and tangible, but rather a service. You are in
the business of developing Mailing lists. Many large
corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists.
(The money made from the mailing lists are secondary to the
income which is made from people like yourself requesting
that they be included in that list.)
1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 names listed
below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send cash only
please (total investment $5.00). Enclose a note with each
letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list."
Enclose the filled out questionare. Be sure to fill out
as much of the questionaire as you feel comfortable doing.
(This is a legitimate service that you
are requesting and you are paying $1.00
for this service).
2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list.
Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will
become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.)
Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10
position.
3) Post the new letter with your name in the number 10
position into 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards and/or
computer systems in the message base or to the file section,
call the file, MAKEMONY.ARC, or something similar.
4) Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in
CASH. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can
use it again and again whenever you need money. As soon as
you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail
order business and people are sending you $1.00 to be placed
on your mailing list. This list can than be rented to a list
broker that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional
income on a regular basis. The list will become more
valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is
perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18,
Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws.
NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent
to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not
discard the names and notes they send you. This is
PROOF that you are truely providing a service and
should the IRS or some other Government Agency
question you, you can provide them with this proof!
Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions
carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for
their participation as a List Developer with one dollar
each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that
when your name reaches the number five position you will be
receiving thousands of dollars in cash.
1. Howard Staten 12012 Cheyenne Rd.
Gaithersburg, MD
20878
2. Brian A. Miller 10270 Ft. Churchill
Reno, NV
89506
3. Jeffrey Adler 7210B Eden Brook Drive #202
Columbia, MD
21046
4. Troy Bruder 31 Murray Drive
Allentown, Pa
18104
5. James Mahoney 2350 Tilghman Street
Allentown, PA
18104
6. Michelle Feaster 27 S 18th St.
Allentown, PA
18104
7. James Knoebel 1908 B W 33rd St.
Austin, TX
78703
8. Woody Baker Rt.1 Box I
Manor, Tx.
78653
9. Bob Shipman Box 20, Hotz Hall
Fayetteville, AR
72701
10. Derik "Shag" Bracke 25 Andrews Memorial Drive
Box 36
Rochester, NY
14623
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Name :______________________________
Address line 1 :______________________________
Address line 2 :______________________________
City :________________
State :__
Zipcode :__________
(optional)
Sex (M/F) :_
Date of Birth :_____________ (mm/dd/yy)
Phone :(___) - ___ - ____
Computer type :_______________________________
:_______________________________(things you like
Hobbies :_______________________________ to do)
:_______________________________
Catagories :_______________________________(things you
:_______________________________ are interested
:_______________________________ in receiving
:_______________________________ mail on)
Pets :_______________________________ (What kind)
Occupation :_______________________________
Type of car :_______________________________
Own or Rent :______________
House or Apt :_____________
# Children :_____ (if any)
Married (y/n) :_____
Self-employed :______________________ (do you work for yourself?)
Business name :______________________ (if you own your own)
Own a life polcy:_______________________ (own a life insurance policy)
Purchase by mail:_________________________ (items that you have
:_________________________ or would purchase
:_________________________ )
Household income range:____________________(rough figures)
The reason for requesting the above information is simple.
Most users of mailing lists need to be able to selectivly
target a particular audience. If you are selling, say knitting
materials, it would be a waste of your money to mail a catalog
to someone who has no interest in knitting. So, you would
request that the list supplier select the names by certain
catagories. The list supplier will charge you a bit more, but
your return for invested dollars will be much higher.
Even though some of these are fairly personal in nature, they
are all valid selection criteria for a mailing list.
The Catagories information above is very important. You
should fill it out with a list of catagories of things that
you are interested in. The hobbies and occupation fields
are just as important. Perhaps you like to hunt. If I sent
you an offer to join an anti-hunting group, not only would
you be upset, but I would have wasted my time and money.
In addition, if you will send $3.00 to
Woody Baker, Rt.1 Box I, Manor Tx, 78653,
you will recieve a catalog (on 5 1/4 360k disk), of hundreds
of Public Domain and shareware programs that are available
through Woody.
This catalog is a bit different. You can run the program that is
bundled with the catalog, and fill out an order form for
programs that you desire. The program will tell you how many
floppies (360K) it will take to hold all of the files that
you want. Then you can order them for $4.95 per disk. This
gives YOU the opportunity to select ONLY those files that
you want, rather than having to take someone elses selection as
many public-domain/shareware sellers do. It's like being
connected to a BBS. Except that the cost is lower. If you want a package
that exists on 1 disk here, and another there, you usually have to
buy each disk. This way you don't. Just tell us
what you want, and we will pack it onto a disk for you.
You still pay a reasonable price per disk, but it is YOUR
selection.
In addition, I'll add you to a master list, and periodicaly
notify you of updates to the catalog. Please fill out
the questionaire above, to the extent that you are comfortable
with.
We accept personal checks, money orders, cash and American Express Cards.
Sincerely
Woody Baker
Rt.1 Box I
Manor, Tx 78653
The following letters were written by participating members
in this program.
To Whom It May Concern:
About six months ago I received the enclosed post in
letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of
the same letter withn the next two weeks. I ignored them
also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and
dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just
another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong!
About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a
local bulletion board in Montreal. I liked the idea of
giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much
because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I,
they wouldn't be too quick to part with Five dollars. But,
I buy lottery tickets weekly in my province and have nothing
to show for it but ticket stubs. This week I decided to
look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the
envelopes and mailed out one dollar in each as directed.
Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail.
The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what
happened! I can't say I received $50,000, but it was
definitely well over $35,000! For the first time in ten
years, I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it
didn't take me long to go through my earnings so I am using
this excellent money opportunity once again. Follow the
instructions and get ready to enjoy.
Please send a copy of this letter along with the
enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are
skeptical that it really works!
Good Luck,
Charles Kust
St Agathe Que.
Another letter:
I tried a similar program in which the cost was $5.00 per
response. In that one the return was about 3%. Since I did
not have a modem I sent out letters regular mail. I created
mailing labels with Appleworks and printed the labels on
pressure sensitive tape. The first mailing that I used the
$1.00 dollar per reponse approach I started to get return
mail in just over one week! I sent out 200 letters instead
of 100 that is required if you use the mail instead of the
bulletion boards. Additionally, I included as many friends,
relatives, classmates, that I could think of in order to
encourage their participation if they happened to recognize
my name, so my percnetage of gain was higher. I am trying
again with 500 letters to see if I surpass the $141,000 of
the last time. You just won't beleive it until you try.
Best Wishes,
Mark Garner
Dallas Texas
Additional Notes:
This system works equally well if mailed out manually.
Mind you it takes more effort to hand address the envelopes
and the cost goes up proportionately to cover the postage
and envelopes. You must also photo copy the instructions,
cross out the name in number one position, write in your
name in the number ten slot and change the rest of the
numbers accordinly. (It might be neater to use white out or
paste over the names.) In order to achieve the same results
you must send out the $1.00 dollar to the first five names
and then send out another 100 letters with copies of the
program enclosed. It has been suggested not to put a return
address on the outside of the envelope in order to encourage
the recipient to open it. The return will approxiamate that
then received from the posts listed on the bulletin boards.
Another letter:
I was working the grave yard night shift at the
hospital administration office and was bored to tears. I
saw this letter laying on my desk from the previous shift.
I had nothing better to do so I figured, Why not? I ran off
over 100 copies on the office copier. I found some blank
envelopes in a desk drawer and began to hand write the
addresses from the telephone book. I borrowed the postage
meter and stamped the envelopes. Carefully I stuffed the
envelopes not forgetting to put in the five one dollar bills
to the first five names. I put the entire lot in the mail
bag. Total time from start to finish was three and one half
hours which included several short stops to answer the
telephone and fill out an admission slip. Total cost to me
$5.00 dollars.
Fourty two days later I gave notice to my employer and
I will never have to work the night shift again.
Peggy Lou G.
Scottsdale Arizona
PS. I made a nice size donation to the hospital building
fund. I figured it was the least I could do for the use of
the postage and office supplies.roy@phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) (02/10/90)
In <2141@ultb.isc.rit.edu> dtb7684@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.T. Bracke ) writes: > Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you > will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours. This is an absolutely classic pyramid scheme. I.e. it's a scam, it doesn't work, it's probably illegal, and if you help propagate it you are either dishonest or incredibly naive. I'm constantly amazed that these things keep popping up, especially on the net, which is probably inhabited by people significantly more intelligent than the general public at large. Or am I being incredibly naive to believe that last sentence? From my (exceedingly limited) understanding of the law, using the US mail to run a ponzi scheme (i.e. telling people to mail you money) constitutes postal fraud. I would bring thing to our local (paper mail) postmaster's attention, but I just can't see bothering to try to explain to him what usenet is. Actually, I think there is a clause in the postal fraud laws which permits this kind of thing, but only if the proceeds are used to buy postcards to mail to some kid dying of cancer in England. :-) -- Roy Smith, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016 roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu -OR- {att,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers,hombre}!phri!roy "My karma ran over my dogma"
johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine) (02/10/90)
In article <2141@ultb.isc.rit.edu> dtb7684@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.T. Bracke ) writes: >[the same old "mailing list" chain letter, this time with a freeware disk >sales pitch included] This is an illegal chain letter, something that usenet has seen more than its share of. Don't fall for it. -- John R. Levine, Segue Software, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 864 9650 johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us, {ima|lotus|spdcc}!esegue!johnl "Now, we are all jelly doughnuts."