[comp.mail.misc] Mail to Profs at Kodak

JDM@EN-C30.Prime.COM (07/10/90)

Jack Morrison
(jdm@en-c30.prime.com)

I am trying to send mail to someone who is an IBM PROFS user at Kodak
in Rochester, N.Y. and I have so far been totally unsuccessful. I can
get to the kodak domain, but the address information I pass to the
relay seems to be bad internal to the domain. I got the address from
the administrator at Kodak, but I work at Prime and our mail system
uses a different set of separators. I think that smex02 is the
system name and lockovm2 is the user id. As for kr25, neither I nor
the guy I am trying to mail to, has any idea.

The address I was given was:

      kr25::lockovm2::smex02@kodakr.kodak.com

but using that never gets outside my own domain:

MAIL MEMO   kr25::lockovm2::smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
Mail addressed to "@kr25.Prime.COM,@,@lockovm2,@:smex02@kodakr.kodak.com" could not be forwarded.
no route known for "kr25.prime.com"

So I tried a couple of variations:

MAIL MEMO   lockovm2::kr25::smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
Mail addressed to "@lockovm2.Prime.COM,@,@kr25,@:smex02@kodakr.kodak.com" could not be forwarded.
no route known for "lockovm2.prime.com"

MAIL MEMO   @lockovm2:smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
Mail addressed to "@lockovm2.Prime.COM,@:smex02@kodakr.kodak.com" could not be forwarded.
no route known for "lockovm2.prime.com"

MAIL MEMO   lockovm2::smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
Mail addressed to "@lockovm2.Prime.COM:smex02@kodakr.kodak.com" could not be forwarded.
no route known for "lockovm2.prime.com"

And eventually was able to get TO Kodak.Com, but thats are far as it goes:

MAIL MEMO   smex02@lockovm2@kr25@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
554 <@KODAKR.KODAK.COM,@smex02:kr25@lockovm2>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

MAIL MEMO   smex02@lockovm2@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
554 <@KODAKR.KODAK.COM:lockovm2@smex02>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

MAIL MEMO   lockovm2@smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
554 <@KODAKR.KODAK.COM:smex02@lockovm2>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

MAIL MEMO   kr25@smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
554 <@KODAKR.KODAK.COM:kr25@smex02>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

MAIL MEMO   kr25@lockovm2@smex02@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
554 <@KODAKR.KODAK.COM,@kr25:smex02@lockovm2>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

Does ANYBODY have any idea what is going on?         HELP !!!!

Thanks!

towfiq@interlan.Interlan.COM (Mark Towfigh) (07/11/90)

In article <54800002@EN-C30.Prime.COM> JDM@EN-C30.Prime.COM writes:

   I am trying to send mail to someone who is an IBM PROFS user at Kodak
   in Rochester, N.Y. and I have so far been totally unsuccessful.
   The address I was given was:  kr25::lockovm2::smex02@kodakr.kodak.com

   but using that never gets outside my own domain:

   Mail addressed to "@kr25.Prime.COM,@,@lockovm2,@:smex02@kodakr.kodak.com" could not be forwarded.

   And eventually was able to get TO Kodak.Com, but thats are far as it goes:

   MAIL MEMO   smex02@lockovm2@kr25@kodakr.kodak.com   RETURNED:
   554 <@KODAKR.KODAK.COM,@smex02:kr25@lockovm2>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server)

   Does ANYBODY have any idea what is going on?         HELP !!!!

I think I see the problem.  Locally, your Prime system is interpreting
the :: operator and trying to deliver locally.  You don't want that,
though, you want your mail to get to Kodak, and then be interpreted
locally.  The second thing you tried is doomed to failure, because
Kodak's system doesn't understand the @ sign.  My suggestion to you
would be to enclose your friend's local address in quotes, like this:

		"kr25::lockovm2::smex02"@kodakr.kodak.com

That should prevent your local system from interpreting the :: part,
until it gets to Kodak.  If this doesn't work, tell us what the error
message was.

Hope this helps,
Mark
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