ittai@shemesh.GBA.NYU.EDU (Ittai Hershman) (07/12/90)
> Bitnet sites that are on the internet also have a domain-ized name that > is used for sending mail to it thru the internet. e.g. > GITVM1 (bitnet) is vm1.gatech.edu (internet); > DRYCAS (bitnet) is DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU (internet), The problem is that end-users have no way of knowing this. NYU, for instance, is very well connected to the Internet (two T1's to two different regionals), yet we receive tons of mail on our 9600 baud RSCS connections from other institutions which, like us, are on both BITnet and the Internet. At present, at my site, mail sent out on the RSCS link gets the RSCS/BITnet nodename, while mail sent out on the Internet gets a fully qualified domain name. I have been very tempted to have all outgoing mail sent with the fully qualified domain name which would force replies from dual BITnet/Internet sites to favor the Internet. The dwindling population of BITnet only sites would presumably route the mail via a BITnet/Internet gateway. Comments? No flames please -- this is a topic some people feel is religous, and none of us need a flame war. Come to think of it, shouldn't this be on comp.mail.misc: I've crossposted and directed followups to there. -Ittai
k2@charly.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger) (07/13/90)
ittai@shemesh.GBA.NYU.EDU (Ittai Hershman) writes: >qualified domain name. I have been very tempted to have all outgoing >mail sent with the fully qualified domain name which would force >replies from dual BITnet/Internet sites to favor the Internet. The >dwindling population of BITnet only sites would presumably route the >mail via a BITnet/Internet gateway. Comments? No flames please -- I think it's a good idea, but it's possible that you will run into trouble. There are many BITNET sites around the world which don't run mailer's. They use sometimes Command-procedures to talk with BSMTP-Mailers. Those command-procedures are mostly years behind DOMAIN.NAMES. I remember a case, there a France site was not able to send to the .de domain. Maybe, if we use always the FQDN, we will force such sites to use more sophisticated software ? Sincerely, Klaus Steinberger Klaus Steinberger Beschleunigerlabor der TU und LMU Muenchen Phone: (+49 89)3209 4287 Hochschulgelaende, D-8046 Garching, West Germany BITNET: K2@DGABLG5P Internet: k2@charly.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de
k2@charly.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger) (07/13/90)
k2@charly.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger) writes: >ittai@shemesh.GBA.NYU.EDU (Ittai Hershman) writes: >>qualified domain name. I have been very tempted to have all outgoing >>mail sent with the fully qualified domain name which would force >>replies from dual BITnet/Internet sites to favor the Internet. The >>dwindling population of BITnet only sites would presumably route the >>mail via a BITnet/Internet gateway. Comments? No flames please -- >I think it's a good idea, but it's possible that you will run into >trouble. There are many BITNET sites around the world which don't >run mailer's. They use sometimes Command-procedures to talk with >BSMTP-Mailers. Those command-procedures are mostly years behind >DOMAIN.NAMES. I remember a case, there a France site was not able >to send to the .de domain. One additional point: You will not be able to send mail to a non-mailer site with your FQDN! RSCS allows only 8 characters! So this will only work for Sites with Mailers. Sincerely, Klaus Steinberger Klaus Steinberger Beschleunigerlabor der TU und LMU Muenchen Phone: (+49 89)3209 4287 Hochschulgelaende, D-8046 Garching, West Germany BITNET: K2@DGABLG5P Internet: k2@charly.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de