[comp.mail.misc] reaching RSA

corrie@serss0.fiu.edu (Corrie) (12/25/90)

I need an 'address' (electronic) to  any major university in South Africa.

Is there a route (on BITNET/INTERNET) ???

Any information would be extremely helpful.

Thank you in advance.
Corrie 

corrie@serss0.fiu.edu  (on INTERNET,)
corrie@servax          (on BITNET)

news@m2xenix.psg.com (Randy Bush) (12/25/90)

> I need an 'address' (electronic) to  any major university in South Africa.

Ok.  How about the postmaster at Rhodes University where the wire from here to
there goes?

   postmaster@quagga.ru.ac.za
or
   ..!{uunet,osu-cis}!m2xenix!quagga!postmaster

> Is there a route (on BITNET/INTERNET) ???
             ^^^^^ <ahem>
randy
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sac@Apple.COM (Steve Cisler) (12/31/90)

I quote from John Quarterman's THE MATRIX (Digital Press, 1990):

"Apparently there are internal networks in South Africa, but external
connections are few. ... Connection requests in 1987 and 1988 from South
African universities were turned down by EARN, by BITNET, by EUUG on
behalf of EUnet, by USENIX on behalf of UUNET, and by CSNET.  The
PDN SAPONET connects to the rest of the world...and there are apparently
FidoNet nodes in that country."

So you might try FidoNet, unless someone has more recent information.
Steve Cisler, Apple Library

karl_kleinpaste@cis.ohio-state.edu (01/01/91)

sac@Apple.COM writes:
   I quote from John Quarterman's THE MATRIX (Digital Press, 1990):

Quarterman's book is good, but dated on this point.  South Africa has
registered the domain .ZA with the NIC; NS and MX for .ZA run here.
Given that the oldest thing .ZA-bound in my UUCP queue is from this
morning at 8am, I would venture to say that Randy Bush has figured out
how to get past my getty, which was causing his system some difficulty
last week or so.

news@m2xenix.psg.com (Randy Bush) (01/01/91)

While John's book is generally excellent, its various editions have always been
especially out of date with respect to South Africa.

.ZA is a registered domain.  .AC.ZA is the UNINET of the South African
universities.  For specific info on who the adressor may wish to reach, try
writing to the postmaster at one of the three most net.knowledgable sites

postmaster@quagga.ru.ac.za    Jacot Guillarmod
			      at Rhodes University in Grahamstown,
postmaster@ucthpx.uct.ac.za   Chris Pinkham
			      at University of Cape Town, or
postmaster@daisy.ee.und.ac.za Allan Barrett
			      at University of Natal at Durban

Shriekers can use
    ..!m2xenix!quagga!postmaster,
    ..!m2xenix!quagga!undeed!postmaster, or
    ..!m2xenix!quagga!ucthpx
respectively.

They also have SANET, which is an informal net of the non-academic uucp sites.
For info on those sites, I suggest writing to Chris Old as
    ..!ddsw1!olsa99!!ctk1!chris

News flows from here to that subset of university and SANET sites who are
willing to sign letters of assurance that they are not military or apartheid-
enforcing related agencies, nor is the info used or fed to folk in support of
such.

For the obvious political reasons, the South African uucp map as distributed by
Rutgers, u.zaf.1, is not at all up to date.  I maintain an up to date one here,
and publish occasionally in news.newsites.  For the addicted map collecter, I
can accomodate email requests.

If folk are interested, we could start soc.culture.southafrica, or
comp.mail.politics as an appropriate place to discuss the advisability of
having this connectivity.  I have suggested this a couple of times, as I know
that there are folk with valid points in opposition, and I really would like
some rational discussion.  The issue is neither easy nor clear cut.

Hope this helps.
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