[comp.mail.misc] Internet or UUCP in Brazil?

rasmus@napc.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (03/22/91)

I have accepted a job in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and would like to know
where and who to contact for either direct or indirect net access.  
Failing decent Internet or uucp networks, is there a satellite down there
I could pop through via an RF modem just for a mail connection?
-- 
Rasmus Lerdorf    calgary!ajfcal!napc!rasmus       1020-64 Ave NE, Calgary
NovAtel Advanced Product Concept Development       Alberta, Canada T2E 7V8

pc@ctt.ctt.bellcore.com (03/29/91)

In article <1991Mar22.075213.5185@napc.uucp> rasmus@napc.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
> I have accepted a job in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and would like to know
> where and who to contact for either direct or indirect net access.  
> Failing decent Internet or uucp networks, is there a satellite down there
> I could pop through via an RF modem just for a mail connection?

i would investigate using the packet-radio network.  phil karn
(ka9q@thumper.bellcore.com) was good enough to develop TCP for just such
use, with a PC.

of course, you should be a licensed radio amateur for this.

peter clitherow, bellcore, pc@bellcore.com
444 hoes lane, room 1h-213, piscataway, nj 08854-4182 (908) 699-3322

rasmus@napc.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (03/30/91)

In article <1991Mar22.075213.5185@napc.uucp> rasmus@napc.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
> I have accepted a job in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and would like to know
> where and who to contact for either direct or indirect net access.  
> Failing decent Internet or uucp networks, is there a satellite down there
> I could pop through via an RF modem just for a mail connection?

In <1991Mar29.011537.10303@bellcore.bellcore.com> pc@ctt.ctt.bellcore.com writes:
>i would investigate using the packet-radio network.  phil karn
>(ka9q@thumper.bellcore.com) was good enough to develop TCP for just such
>use, with a PC.
>of course, you should be a licensed radio amateur for this.

Yes, that was what I meant when I asked about the satellite.  I was referring
to the sun-synchronous satellites the ham radio guys use.  I do not have
a ham radio license, but that can be fixed now that they don't require you
top learn morse code anymore.  I would feel a bit silly going through all
the trouble of buying a radio, RF modem, getting a license and hacking the
software and arrive to find full Internet access right in town.
-- 
Rasmus Lerdorf    calgary!ajfcal!napc!rasmus       1020-64 Ave NE, Calgary
NovAtel Advanced Product Concept Development       Alberta, Canada T2E 7V8

erhall@cdp.UUCP (04/03/91)

  You may want to check with PeaceNet (institute for Global Communications,
San Francisco (415)923-0900, <cdp!support@labrea.stanford.edu>).
They've got access to the net via their mail and conference systems 
and access in Brazil via a network called AlterNex.  
  AlterNex is based in Rio, but I would hope they'd have access from
Porto Alegre.  (AlterNex's number in Rio is
+55 (21) 286-0348
  

hta@isolde.er.sintef.no (Harald Tveit Alvestrand) (04/09/91)

There are some simple tools available, you know....
Yes, there IS an Internet contact in Brazil.
Both the WHOIS database and the DNS agree about this.
The TRACEROUTE tells me that their main nameserver is 14 hops away from
Norway, but I can reach it.

I enclose the printouts...

                     Harald Tveit Alvestrand
                     Searcher of networks
                     Norway



isolde% whois br-dom
Fundacao de Amparo a Pesquisa do Estado de Sao Paulo (BR-DOM)
   Rua Pio XI 1500 - CEP 05060
   Sao Paulo
   BRAZIL

   Domain Name: BR

   Administrative Contact:
      Sala, Oscar  (OS12)  SALA%BRFAPESP.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
      +005511 261-0460
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Gomide, Alberto Courrege  (ACG8)  GOMIDE%BRFAPESP.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
      +005511 261-0460

   Record last updated on 26-Mar-91.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   FPSP.FAPESP.BR               143.108.1.1
   FNMFE.FNAL.GOV               131.225.17.150

   Top Level domain for the Federative Republic of Brazil

   For information concerning this domain, please consult
   the Administrative Contact listed above.

isolde% query -t AXFR -h br.
br.                             86400   IN      SOA     fpsp.fapesp.br. system.f
psp.fapesp.br. (
                        910204    ; serial
                        7200      ; refresh
                        7200      ; retry
                        3600000   ; expire
                        86400   ) ; min
br.                             86400   IN      NS      fpsp.fapesp.br.
fpsp.fapesp.br.                 86400   IN      A       143.108.1.1
fpsp.fapesp.br.                 86400   IN      A       192.74.212.6
br.                             86400   IN      MX 0    fapq.fapesp.br.
br.                             86400   IN      MX 30   cunyvm.cuny.edu.
usp.br.                         86400   IN      NS      fox.cce.usp.br.
fox.cce.usp.br.                 86400   IN      A       143.107.1.1
usp.br.                         86400   IN      NS      fpspux.fapesp.br.
fpspux.fapesp.br.               86400   IN      A       143.108.1.3
usp.br.                         86400   IN      MX 0    fapq.fapesp.br.
usp.br.                         86400   IN      MX 30   cunyvm.cuny.edu.
*.br.                           86400   IN      MX 0    fapq.fapesp.br.
*.br.                           86400   IN      MX 30   cunyvm.cuny.edu.
fapesp.br.                      86400   IN      NS      fpsp.fapesp.br.
fpsp.fapesp.br.                 86400   IN      A       143.108.1.1
fpsp.fapesp.br.                 86400   IN      A       192.74.212.6
fapesp.br.                      86400   IN      MX 0    fapq.fapesp.br.
fapesp.br.                      86400   IN      MX 30   cunyvm.cuny.edu.
inpe.br.                        86400   IN      NS      dem.inpe.br.
dem.inpe.br.                    86400   IN      A       143.108.1.1
inpe.br.                        86400   IN      MX 0    fapq.fapesp.br.
inpe.br.                        86400   IN      MX 30   cunyvm.cuny.edu.

isolde% traceroute 143.108.1.1
traceroute to 143.108.1.1 (143.108.1.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  runit-gw.runit.sintef.no (129.241.1.2)  25 ms  10 ms  10 ms
 2  no-gw.runit.sintef.no (128.39.9.1)  13 ms  12 ms  12 ms
 3  nsf-gw.nordu.net (192.36.148.20)  235 ms  262 ms  72 ms
 4  us-gw.nordu.net (192.36.148.65)  451 ms  895 ms  1019 ms
 5  nss.jvnc.net (192.12.211.1)  682 ms *  299 ms
 6  princeton.nj.nss.nsf.net (129.140.8.75)  369 ms  521 ms *
 7  college_park.md.nss.nsf.net (129.140.73.8)  781 ms  253 ms  334 ms
 8  college_park.md.nss.nsf.net (129.140.9.74)  455 ms 129.140.9.10 (129.140.9.1
0)  748 ms *
 9  esnet.sura.net (192.80.214.252)  1344 ms  359 ms  228 ms
10  134.55.6.34 (134.55.6.34)  284 ms  816 ms  895 ms
11  * 134.55.5.225 (134.55.5.225)  777 ms  809 ms
12  134.55.5.161 (134.55.5.161)  809 ms  593 ms *
13  131.225.17.150 (131.225.17.150)  710 ms  1415 ms  963 ms
14  143.108.1.1 (143.108.1.1)  1795 ms  2410 ms *