gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) (04/10/91)
I sent mail to a large list and got back a very strange bounce message, which I notified the site management about (at Cal State). I have another such bounce now, from Mitre, so I figured it might be time to warn the Internet in general about this broken product. I strongly discourage everyone from connecting a GatorMail box to the Internet mail system. It forges messages, and bothers people all over the world about local problems. It does not meet the RFC's. Apparently, when the GatorMail box bounces a message, it impersonates the sender of the message. The enclosed message "From: gnu@toad.com" showed up in my mailbox. But I'm <gnu@toad.com> and I didn't send this message! I sent the original message, to which this is a response. If they wanted to send a message to me about my mail bouncing, the From: address should be something like mailer-daemon@wherever and the To: address should be <gnu@toad.com>. Not only is the header incorrect, but it sent the bounce message to a useless place (the originator). If it "can't find MailCenter", it should notify someone locally, not someone halfway around the world. I can't find its MailCenter; I can't even find the company that produced it! John Gilmore Return-Path: gnu@toad.com Return-Path: <gnu@toad.com> Received: from mbunix.mitre.org ([129.83.20.100]) by hop.toad.com id AA06249; Tue, 9 Apr 91 13:09:47 PDT Received: by mbunix.mitre.org (5.57/4.7) id AA28882; Tue, 9 Apr 91 16:10:00 EDT Message-Id: <9104092010.AA28882@mbunix.mitre.org> Posted-From: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, MA X-Alternate-Route: user%node@mbunix.mitre.org Date: 9 Apr 91 14:06:00 From: gnu@toad.com <gnu@toad.com> Subject: Can't Find MailCenter! To: Lee_LaBarre.G113_MAIL@qmgate.mitre.org, Rich_Parker.D115_MAIL@qmgate.mitre.org GatorMail-Q Looking for vendors for PEM Received: by qmgate; 9 Apr 91 14:05:57 Received: by mbunix.mitre.org (5.57/4.7) id AA23136; Tue, 9 Apr 91 14:05:04 EDT Received: by TIS.COM (4.1/SUN-5.64) id AA22034; Tue, 9 Apr 91 13:45:12 EDT Received: from cgl.ucsf.EDU by TIS.COM (4.1/SUN-5.64) id AA22028; Tue, 9 Apr 91 13:45:09 EDT Received: by cgl.ucsf.EDU (5.65/GSC4.19) id AA01478 for pem-dev@tis.com; Tue, 9 Apr 91 10:45:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by hop.toad.com id AA25824; Tue, 9 Apr 91 01:33:21 PDT Message-Id: <9104090833.AA25824@hop.toad.com> To: pem-dev@tis.com, gnu@toad.com Subject: Looking for vendors for PEM hardware and software Date: Tue, 09 Apr 91 01:33:19 -0700 From: gnu@toad.com Sender: pem-dev-relay@tis.com The Electronic Frontier Foundation wants to offer PEM to its members. In particular, we want to offer a "persona" registry where members can get a certificate for authenticating their mail while still having their privacy respected. ...text removed for comp.mail.misc purposes... -- John Gilmore {sun,uunet,pyramid}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com gnu@cygnus.com * Truth : the most deadly weapon ever discovered by humanity. Capable of * * destroying entire perceptual sets, cultures, and realities. Outlawed by * * all governments everywhere. Possession is normally punishable by death. * * ..{amdahl|decwrl|octopus|pyramid|ucbvax}!avsd!childers@tycho *