young@luna.math.ucla.edu (Brian Young) (04/22/91)
Last year, someone from Canada posted a handy guide to internetwork mailing (e.g., Compuserve to Internet, FIDOnet to MCImail, &c). Well, I found the guide to be of great value, but I have lost it. Someone from Canada, if you're out there, please post it again. If anyone else knows what I am referring to and has the guide, please post it on comp.mail.misc or e-mail to young@math.ucla.edu ... Thank you.
PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu (Peter M. Weiss) (04/22/91)
Send a note to: listserv@unmvm.unm.edu with body of text: get network guide /Pete Weiss
nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse) (04/23/91)
In article <1991Apr21.231824.16679@math.ucla.edu>, young@luna.math.ucla.edu (Brian Young) writes: > > Last year, someone from Canada posted a handy guide to internetwork > mailing (e.g., Compuserve to Internet, FIDOnet to MCImail, &c). Well, > I found the guide to be of great value, but I have lost it. Someone > from Canada, if you're out there, please post it again. If anyone else > knows what I am referring to and has the guide, please post it on > comp.mail.misc or e-mail to young@math.ucla.edu ... Thank you. I would also very much like to obtain such a guide. A long time ago someone posted an address for a mail server, but mail I sent there seemed to go into the bit-bucket. I get a lot of questions from users here wanting to know how to mail to various places (including Prodigy but I know that's a you can't get there from here situation). FIDOnet is another common place people want to send mail to.
herring@cse.uta.edu (Erick Herring) (04/25/91)
In article <368@eskimo.celestial.com> nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse) writes: >In article <1991Apr21.231824.16679@math.ucla.edu>, young@luna.math.ucla.edu (Brian Young) writes: >> >> Last year, someone from Canada posted a handy guide to internetwork >> mailing (e.g., Compuserve to Internet, FIDOnet to MCImail, &c). Well, >> I found the guide to be of great value, but I have lost it. Someone >> from Canada, if you're out there, please post it again. If anyone else >> knows what I am referring to and has the guide, please post it on >> comp.mail.misc or e-mail to young@math.ucla.edu ... Thank you. > > > I would also very much like to obtain such a guide. A long time ago >someone posted an address for a mail server, but mail I sent there seemed >to go into the bit-bucket. I get a lot of questions from users here wanting >to know how to mail to various places (including Prodigy but I know that's >a you can't get there from here situation). FIDOnet is another common place >people want to send mail to. Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore and buy a copy of LaQuey's book, "Users' Directory of Computer Networks". It is an Internetworking Guide on steroids. Note: I only suggest this because you mention users in your posting - this is a valuable user resource, which is enhanced by The Internetworking Guide. Erick -- Erick Herring, NeXT Campus Consultant - University of Texas at Arlington email: herring@evax.uta.edu Disclaimer: Unless otherwise specified, none of the above reflects the policies of NeXT Computer, Inc. Likewise, the above does not commit NeXT to any specific course of action nor can anything I say be construed as binding on NeXT. All opinions are my own.
mjo@irie.ais.org (Mike O'Connor) (04/25/91)
The guide is available for anonymous FTP at: ra.msstate.edu:pub/docs/internetwork-mail-guide ==== Mike O'Connor (mjo@ais.org)
uhacm@menudo.uh.edu (ACM/UH) (04/27/91)
In article <1991Apr25.071037.14282@cse.uta.edu> herring@cse.uta.edu (Erick Herring) writes: >In article <368@eskimo.celestial.com> nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse) writes: >>In article <1991Apr21.231824.16679@math.ucla.edu>, young@luna.math.ucla.edu (Brian Young) writes: >>> [stuff about some guy in Canada posting some guide to the net] >> >> I would also very much like to obtain such a guide. A long time ago >>someone posted an address for a mail server, but mail I sent there seemed >>to go into the bit-bucket. I get a lot of questions from users here wanting >>to know how to mail to various places (including Prodigy but I know that's >>a you can't get there from here situation). FIDOnet is another common place >>people want to send mail to. Maybe this is what you want? Look down a page or so.... > >Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore and buy a copy of LaQuey's >book, "Users' Directory of Computer Networks". It is an >Internetworking Guide on steroids. > >Note: I only suggest this because you mention users in your posting - >this is a valuable user resource, which is enhanced by The >Internetworking Guide. > >Erick >-- >Erick Herring, NeXT Campus Consultant - University of Texas at Arlington >email: herring@evax.uta.edu >Disclaimer: Unless otherwise specified, none of the above reflects the >policies of NeXT Computer, Inc. Likewise, the above does not commit >NeXT to any specific course of action nor can anything I say be >construed as binding on NeXT. All opinions are my own. [This is what I got from the net awhile ago.... this is a repost] This list is current as of 04 April 1991, I think (but then, one never knows: things change so rapidly). ============================================================================== --------- Contents: I : The Internetworking Guide II: Networks NOT(yet) reachable from Internet. -------- Inter-Network Mail Guide - Copyright 1990 by John J. Chew $Header: netmail,v 1.12 90/07/06 20:38:28 john Exp $ COPYRIGHT NOTICE This document is Copyright 1990 by John J. Chew. All rights reserved. Permission for non-commercial distribution is hereby granted, provided that this file is distributed intact, including this copyright notice and the version information above. Permission for commercial distribution can be obtained by contacting the author as described below. INTRODUCTION This file documents methods of sending mail from one network to another. It represents the aggregate knowledge of the readers of comp.mail.misc and many contributors elsewhere. If you know of any corrections or additions to this file, please read the file format documentation below and then mail to me: John J. Chew <poslfit@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>. If you do not have access to electronic mail (which makes me wonder about the nature of your interest in the subject, but there does seem to be a small such population out there) you can call me during the month of July at +1 416 979 7166 between 11:00 and 24:00 EDT (UTC-4h) and most likely talk to my answering machine (:-). DISTRIBUTION (news) This list is posted monthly to Usenet newsgroups comp.mail.misc and news.newusers.questions. (mail) I maintain a growing list of subscribers who receive each monthly issue by electronic mail, and recommend this to anyone planning to redistribute the list on a regular basis. (FTP) Internet users can fetch this guide by anonymous FTP as ~ftp/pub/docs/ internetwork-mail-guide on Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 or 130.18.96.37) [Courtesy of Frank W. Peters] (Listserv) Bitnet users can fetch this guide from the Listserv at UNMVM. Send mail to LISTSERV@UNMVM with blank subject and body consisting of the line "GET NETWORK GUIDE". [Courtesy of Art St. George] HOW TO USE THIS GUIDE Each entry in this file describes how to get from one network to another. To keep this file at a reasonable size, methods that can be generated by transitivity (A->B and B->C gives A->B->C) are omitted. Entries are sorted first by source network and then by destination network. This is what a typical entry looks like: #F mynet #T yournet #R youraddress #C contact address if any #I send to "youraddress@thegateway" For parsing purposes, entries are separated by at least one blank line, and each line of an entry begins with a `#' followed by a letter. Lines beginning with `# ' are comments and need not be parsed. Lines which do not start with a `#' at all should be ignored as they are probably mail or news headers. #F (from) and #T (to) lines specify source and destination networks. If you're sending me information about a new network, please give me a brief description of the network so that I can add it to the list below. The abbreviated network names used in #F and #T lines should consist only of the characters a-z, 0-9 and `-' unless someone can make a very convincing case for their favourite pi character. These are the currently known networks with abbreviated names: applelink AppleLink (Apple Computer, Inc.'s in-house network) attmail AT&T Mail,AT&T's commercial e-mail service. bitnet international academic network bix Byte Information eXchange: Byte magazine's commercial BBS bmug Berkeley Macintosh Users Group compuserve commercial time-sharing service connect Connect Professional Information Network (commercial) easynet Easynet (DEC's in-house mail system) envoy Envoy-100 (Canadian commercial mail service) fax Facsimile document transmission fidonet PC-based BBS network geonet GeoNet Mailbox Systems (commercial) internet the Internet mci MCI's commercial electronic mail service mfenet Magnetic Fusion Energy Network nasamail NASA internal electronic mail peacenet non-profit mail service sinet Schlumberger Information NETwork span Space Physics Analysis Network (includes HEPnet) sprintmail Sprint's commercial mail service (formerly Telemail) thenet Texas Higher Education Network #R (recipient) gives an example of an address on the destination network, to make it clear in subsequent lines what text requires subsitution. #C (contact) gives an address for inquiries concerning the gateway, expressed as an address reachable from the source (#F) network. Presumably, if you can't get the gateway to work at all, then knowing an unreachable address on another network will not be of great help. #I (instructions) lines, of which there may be several, give verbal instructions to a user of the source network to let them send mail to a user on the destination network. Text that needs to be typed will appear in double quotes, with C-style escapes if necessary. /* Additions */ /* Given below are the additions made, along with the sender's address: Network Description Sender UNINet Network in Rep. of SA Erik Proper (erik@cs.kun.nl) SIGNet Network in Rep. of SA Erik Proper (erik@cs.kun.nl) EcoNet Similar to PeaceNet Brian Coan (brian@igc.org) gsfcmail NASA Goddard Space Flight Center mail system DWEISSMAN@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov _Ajay */ #F applelink #T internet #R user@domain #I send to "user@domain@internet#" #I domain can be be of the form "site.bitnet", address must be <35 characters #F AT&T Mail (attmail) #T internet #R internet!domain!user #C AT&T Mail Customer Assisistance Center, 1-800-624-5672 (1-800-MAIL-672) #I For an address "user@domain", send to "internet!domain!user". #F bitnet #T internet #R user@domain #I Methods for sending mail from Bitnet to the Internet vary depending on #I what mail software is running at the Bitnet site in question. In the #I best case, users should simply be able to send mail to "user@domain". #I If this doesn't work, try "user%domain@gateway" where "gateway" is a #I regional Bitnet-Internet gateway site. Finally, if neither of these #I works, you may have to try hand-coding an SMTP envelope for your mail. #I If you have questions concerning this rather terse note, please try #I contacting your local postmaster or system administrator first before #I you send me mail -- John Chew <poslfit@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> #F compuserve #T fax #R +1 415 555 1212 #I send to "FAX 14155551212" (only to U.S.A.) #F compuserve #T internet #R user@domain #I send to ">INTERNET:user@domain" #F compuserve #T mci #R 123-4567 #I send to ">MCIMAIL:123-4567" #F connect #T internet #R user@domain #I send to CONNECT id "DASNET" #I first line of message: "\"user@domain\"@DASNET" #F easynet #T bitnet #R user@site #C DECWRL::ADMIN #I from VMS use NMAIL to send to "nm%DECWRL::\"user@site.bitnet\"" #I from Ultrix #I send to "user@site.bitnet" or if that fails #I (via IP) send to "\"user%site.bitnet\"@decwrl.dec.com" #I (via DECNET) send to "DECWRL::\"user@site.bitnet\"" #F easynet #T fidonet #R john smith at 1:2/3.4 #C DECWRL::ADMIN #I from VMS use NMAIL to send to #I "nm%DECWRL::\"john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org\"" #I from Ultrix #I send to "john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org" or if that fails #I (via IP) send to "\"john.smith%p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org\"@decwrl.dec.com" #I (via DECNET) send to "DECWRL::\"john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org\"" #F easynet #T internet #R user@domain #C DECWRL::ADMIN #I from VMS use NMAIL to send to "nm%DECWRL::\"user@domain\"" #I from Ultrix #I send to "user@domain" or if that fails #I (via IP) send to "\"user%domain\"@decwrl.dec.com" #I (via DECNET) send to "DECWRL::\"user@domain\"" #F envoy #T internet #R user@domain #C ICS.TEST or ICS.BOARD #I send to "[RFC-822=\"user(a)domain\"]INTERNET/TELEMAIL/US #I for special characters, use @=(a), !=(b), _=(u), any=(three octal digits) #F fidonet #T internet #R user@domain #I send to "uucp" at nearest gateway site #I first line of message: "To: user@domain" #F geonet #T internet #R user@domain #I send to "DASNET" #I subject line: "user@domain!subject" #F GSFCMail #T internet #R user@domain #C cust.svc #I at the "To:" prompt type "POSTMAN" #I at the "Subject:" prompt enter the subject of your message #I at the "Text:" prompt, i.e. as the first line of your message, #I enter "To: user@domain" #I or use same directions as sprintmail to internet #F GSFCMail #T NASAMAIL #R userid #C cust.svc #I send to "(C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,P:NASAMAIL,O:NASA,UN:userid)" #F GSFCMail #T span (now nsi-decnet) #R host::user #C cust.svc #I at the "To:" prompt enter "POSTMAN" #I at the "Subject:" prompt enter the subject of your message #I at the "Text:" prompt, i.e. as the first line of your message, #I enter "To: user@host.SPAN.NASA.GOV" #I or use GSFCCNE gateway and send to #I (C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,P:GSFCCNE,O:SPAN,OU:host,SN:user) #F GSFCMail #T sprintmail #R (C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,O:organization,UN:userid) #C cust.svc #I for public networks send to #I "(C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,O:organization,UN:userid)" #I for private networks send to #I "(C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,PRMD:private_net,O:organization,UN:userid)" #F internet #T applelink #R user #I send to "user@applelink.apple.com" #F internet #T attmail #R user@attmail.com #C AT&T Mail Customer Assisistance Center, 1-800-624-5672 (1-800-MAIL-672) #I For an address "attmail!user", send to "user@attmail.com" #F internet #T bitnet #R user@site #I send to "user%site.bitnet@gateway" where "gateway" is a gateway host that #I is on both the internet and bitnet. Some examples of gateways are: #I cunyvm.cuny.edu mitvma.mit.edu. Check first to see what local policies #I are concerning inter-network forwarding. #F internet #T bix #R user #I send to "user@dcibix.das.net" #F internet #T bmug #R John Smith #I send to "John.Smith@bmug.fidonet.org" #F internet #T compuserve #R 71234,567 #I send to "71234.567@compuserve.com" #I note: Compuserve account IDs are pairs of octal numbers. Ordinary #I consumer CIS user IDs begin with a `7' as shown. #F internet #T connect #R NAME #I send to "NAME@dcjcon.das.net" #F internet #T easynet #R HOST::USER #C admin@decwrl.dec.com #I send to "user@host.enet.dec.com" or "user%host.enet@decwrl.dec.com" #F internet #T easynet #R John Smith @ABC #C admin@decwrl.dec.com #I send to "John.Smith@ABC.MTS.DEC.COM" #I (This syntax is for All-In-1 users.) #F internet #T econet #R user #C <support@igc.org> #I send to "user@igc.org" #F internet #T envoy #R userid #C POSTMASTER@SPRINT.COM for second method only #I send to "att!attmail!mhs!envoy!userid@UUNET.UU.NET" #I or through US Sprint's X.400 gateway to #I "/C=CA/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/O=ENVOY/DD.ID=userid/@SPRINT.COM" #F internet #T fidonet #R john smith at 1:2/3.4 #I send to "john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org" #F internet #T geonet #R user at host #I send to "user:host@map.das.net" #I American host is geo4, European host is geo1. #F internet #T GSFCMail #R userid #C postmaster@ames.arc.nasa.gov #I send to "user@GSFCMAIL.NASA.GOV" #F internet #T mci #R John Smith (123-4567) #I send to "1234567@mcimail.com" #I or send to "JSMITH@mcimail.com" if "JSMITH" is unique #I or send to "John_Smith@mcimail.com" if "John Smith" is unique - note the #I underscore! #I or send to "John_Smith/1234567@mcimail.com" if "John Smith" is NOT unique #F internet #T mfenet #R user@mfenode #I send to "user%mfenode.mfenet@nmfecc.arpa" #F internet #T nasamail #R user #C <postmaster@ames.arc.nasa.gov> #I send to "user@nasamail.nasa.gov" #F internet #T peacenet #R user #C <support@igc.org> #I send to "user@igc.org" #F internet #T signet (through FidoNet) #R John Smith at 27:2/3.4 #I Send the message to John.Smith@f527.n2.z2.fidonet.org (that is the #I FidoNet to SigNet gateway). #I The first line of the message should be: #I @DOMAIN SIGNet 27:2/3.4 FidoNet 2:2/527 #I For other persons at the signet, replace John.Smith and 27:2/3.4 by #I the proper person/node adrress. #I The sysop of the gateway can be reached at: #I andreas.levenitschnig@f527.n2.z2.fidonet.org #F internet #T sinet #R node::user or node1::node::user #I send to "user@node.SINet.SLB.COM" or "user%node@node1.SINet.SLB.COM" #F internet #T span (now nsi-decnet) #R host::user #C netmgr@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov #I send to "user@host.SPAN.NASA.GOV" #F internet #T sprintmail #R (C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,O:organization,UN:userid) #C postmaster@sprint.com #I for public networks send to #I "/C=US/ADMD=TELEMAIL/O=organization/DD.UN=userid/@SPRINT.COM" #I or if you know the recipients registered full name #I "/C=US/ADMD=TELEMAIL/O=organization/PN=firstname.lastname/@SPRINT.COM" #I for private networks send to #I "/C=USA/ADMD=TELEMAIL/PRMD=private_net/O=organization/DD.UN=userid/@SPRINT.COM" #F internet #T thenet #R user@host #I send to "user%host.decnet@utadnx.cc.utexas.edu" #F internet #T uninet (South Africa) (Through FidoNet) #R user.node #I Send the message to user.node@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org #I A list of nodes in the uninet can be obtained by sending a message #I with SEND UNINODE #F mci #T internet #R John Smith <user@domain> #I at the "To:" prompt type "John Smith (EMS)" #I at the "EMS:" prompt type "internet" #I at the "Mbx:" prompt type "user@domain" #F nasamail #T internet #R user@domain #I at the "To:" prompt type "POSTMAN" #I at the "Subject:" prompt enter the subject of your message #I at the "Text:" prompt, i.e. as the first line of your message, #I enter "To: user@domain" #F sinet #T internet #R user@domain #I send to "M_MAILNOW::M_INTERNET::\"user@domain\"" #I or "M_MAILNOW::M_INTERNET::domain::user" #F span (now nsi-decnet) #T GSFCMail #R userid #C mssdca::netmgr #I send to "AMES::\"user@GSFCMAIL.NASA.GOV"\" #F span #T internet #R user@domain #C nssdca::netmgr #I send to "AMES::\"user@domain\"" #F sprintmail #T internet #R user@domain #C (c:usa,admd:telemail,o:telenet.tele,fn:technical,sn:support,i:t) #I send to "(C:USA,ADMD:TELEMAIL,PRMD:INTERNET,ID:<user(a)domain>)" #F thenet #T internet #R user@domain #I send to UTADNX::WINS%" user@domain " END ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PART - II NETWORKS KNOWN *NOT* TO HAVE ACCESS FROM INTERNET Compiled by Raymond Chen <raymond@math.berkeley.edu> . Network Comments (and userids of people who asked about it and didn't post summaries) ------- --------------------------------------------------- American Online Masato Ogawa (ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp) confirms that there is no gateway. British Telecom rbatt@adam.adelaide.edu.au (R Batt) reports that Gold BT is a member of DialCom (qv). DialCom The gateway was shut down in March 1990 for financial reasons. Individual customers may have established private relays through the Commercial Mail Relay (CMR). Information available on the CMR is available from Intermail-Request@Intermail.ISI.EDU Dialog mcmahan@netcom.UUCP (Dave Mc Mahan) reports that nobody responded to his query in October 1990. Easylink a Western Union service bruceh@CV.HP.COM (Bruce Hauge) reports that as of March 1991 there is no gateway yet, but they're working on it. Eurokom christ@issun3.stc.nl (Brian Christiansen) reports that nobody responded to his query in February 1991. Fidelity Investments ea47916@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Eric Adams) reports that (Dallas) nobody responded to his query in February 1991. GEnie No gateway yet, but Bill Louden, the General Manager of GEnie, has stated publically that they are currently doing research into the feasibility of a gateway. Trust me, if such a gateway is set up, you'll hear about it. By the way, the machine genie.com is a red herring. GoldNet chaim@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Chaim Dworkin) reports that GoldNet is part of DialCom (qv). HandsNet oze3@quads.uchicago.edu (J. Daniel Ozeran) reports that nobody responded to his query in January 1991. Midas Internation headquarters in Chicago IO00393@MAINE.BITNET (Pete) reports that nobody responded to his querh in January 1991. Nifty-Serve a Japanese BBS suzuki@sai.vtt.fi (Makoto Suzuki) contacted the system operators and confirmed that there is no gateway. OMNET Craig E. Ward (cew@isi.edu) explains: Go either through Sprint Internet relay, Sprint.COM, or through the Commercial Mail Relay (CMR) at Intermail.ISI.EDU. Through the CMR, you can send mail to OMNET users with this format: "[omnet.user/OMNET]MAIL/USA%TELEMAIL"@Intermail.ISI.EDU Users on OMNET will need to use an embedded header, i.e. in the body of the message text (almost as ugly as X.400, but not quite) in a message to "[INTERMAIL/USCISI]SM66/USA" to get mail back to you: Forward: Internet To: Gumley_LE@cc.curtin.edu.au <Blank-Line> You can get more information about the Commercial Mail Relay from: Intermail-Request@Intermail.ISI.EDU Paranet vac163w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (vacation) 4 Dec 90 No summary has yet been posted, and personal email to this person is not answered. PC-Relay davidl@cix.compulink.co.uk (Dave Lambert) 21 Feb 91 No summary has yet been posted, and personal email to Mr Lambert is not answered. Prodigy by IBM and Sears censors email charges the sender of the mail message Censorship details available from comp.risks issue 10.46. PROFS (general) PROFS is not a network. It is an electronic office system that has electronic mail as one of its components. Many companies purchase it from IBM and install it locally. PROFS (IBM) gt5116b@prism.gatech.EDU (Gaby Turek) reports that you send to username@vmmachine.iinus1.ibm.com, but the recipient must first have registered for internet access. QUICK-COMM GE Information Services E-Mail pegah@pleiades.cps.msu.edu (Mahmoud Pegah) reports that as of February 1991 there is no gateway, though one is under development. SABRE American Airlines' in-house reservation network. savel@hoss.unl.edu (Bharat P. Savel) reports that it has no gateway to any other network, and they intend to keep it that way. Telemail stevenst@infonode.ingr.com (Todd Stevens) 20 Feb 91 Use the gateway at sprint.com This requires knowledge of the recipient's X.400 address on Telenet (now Sprintnet). Your SMTP address will look like this: smtp%"/dd.un=username/admd=telemail/o=gte/c=us/@sprint.com" the username will be the recipient's username on the system and o will be the organization. VNET (IBM) kkrueger@zeus.unomaha.edu (Kurt Krueger) 16 Feb 91 Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link (WELL) basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) reports that you send mail to username@well.sf.ca.usa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ajay Shekhawat <Dept. of Comp. Sci., SUNY@Buffalo, Amherst, NY 14260> ajay@cs.Buffalo.EDU || ajay@sunybcs.BITNET || ajay@sunybcs.UUCP || 716.636.3180 -- ** The Association for Computing Machinery, UHACM@JETSON.UH.EDU ** ** University of Houston Student Chapter UHACM@MENUDO.UH.EDU ** DISCLAIMER: These opinions do not necessarily reflect the polices of ACM, its members, or The University of Houston.