rauscher@remus.rutgers.edu (Rich Rauscher) (04/22/91)
>Does anybody know of a prodigy gateway? >-Mike Prodigy sucks, sucks, SUCKS! It's not on the net, and I imagine that the administrators of Prodigy wouldn't like to contaminate their little haven with the internet (it's documented that they read and censor user's mail). -Rich -- ------------- rauscher@rutgers.edu RPO 5997 PO 5063, New Brunswick, NJ 08903 rauscher@PISCES Shakespeare learns Discrete Math: {backbone site}!rutgers!rauscher (2B | not (2B)) <=> TRUE
brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe) (04/22/91)
rauscher@remus.rutgers.edu writes: >>Does anybody know of a prodigy gateway? > >Prodigy sucks, sucks, SUCKS! It's not on the net, and I >imagine that the administrators of Prodigy wouldn't like to >contaminate their little haven with the internet (it's documented >that they read and censor user's mail). Wouldn't "No, Prodigy doesn't want outside connections" have been a little more, oh, *polite* ? As for their censorship, it's documented that they read & censor the POSTS of users on their bulletin boards; claiming they censor the mail is a rather volatile statement. Brendan -- Brendan Kehoe - Widener Sun Network Manager - brendan@cs.widener.edu Widener University in Chester, PA A Bloody Sun-Dec War Zone "Does this person look relaxed to you? Well, it's actually an experiment of Contour's new 565-E chair!"
rauscher@remus.rutgers.edu (Rich Rauscher) (04/22/91)
brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe) writes: > As for their censorship, it's documented that they read & censor > the POSTS of users on their bulletin boards; claiming they censor > the mail is a rather volatile statement. Volatile as it might be, it is true. Right before Prodigy started charging people for mail (this was largely because many of companies that had accounts on the system were constantly mass mailing the other users) several users were having a conversation about how they were going to give up their accounts and seek connections elsewhere. The Prodigy gods deemed this conversation bad for business and stopped its thread. This episode was relayed to me by a Prodigy user when I was collecting information about privacy voilations and email. (BTW I'll have a summary of those replies ASAP.) Call me crazy, but I am thoroughly disgusted when I hear of *any* system where privacy and censorship of email is allowed. I'm hoping to see stronger case-law and legislation to protect users' rights soon. -Rich -- ------------- rauscher@rutgers.edu RPO 5997 PO 5063, New Brunswick, NJ 08903 rauscher@PISCES Shakespeare learns Discrete Math: {backbone site}!rutgers!rauscher (2B | not (2B)) <=> TRUE
rbv@cypress.UUCP (Roger Vanderveen) (04/26/91)
In article <Apr.22.09.32.11.1991.3650@remus.rutgers.edu> rauscher@remus.rutgers.edu (Rich Rauscher) writes: >brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe) writes: >> As for their censorship, it's documented that they read & censor >> the POSTS of users on their bulletin boards; claiming they censor >> the mail is a rather volatile statement. > >Call me crazy, but I am thoroughly disgusted when I hear of *any* >system where privacy and censorship of email is allowed. I'm hoping >to see stronger case-law and legislation to protect users' rights >soon. OK, you're crazy. Like I'm told by completely-free-speech-advocates when I don't like the content of TV shows: just change the channel, you don't have to watch it! Funny how some people are dead set against government regulation, until it suits their purposes. =============================================================================== Roger Vanderveen rbv@cypress.UUCP or San Jose, CA USA rbv%cypress@daver.bungi.com The Left is no different from The Right; only the things they're intolerant of. ===============================================================================
rauscher@remus.rutgers.edu (Rich Rauscher) (04/29/91)
rbv@cypress.UUCP (Roger Vanderveen) writes: >Call me crazy, but I am thoroughly disgusted when I hear of *any* >system where privacy and censorship of email is allowed. I'm hoping >to see stronger case-law and legislation to protect users' rights >soon. >OK, you're crazy. >Like I'm told by completely-free-speech-advocates when I don't like >the content of TV shows: just change the channel, you don't have to >watch it! >Funny how some people are dead set against government regulation, >until it suits their purposes. Perhaps you don't mind when sysadmin's read your mail; perhaps it wouldn't mean anything to you if were to lose your job because you were caught saying things that were "against the company" in your mail. Further more, how does it possibly "suit my purposes" to have this sort of regulation? As for the TV show analogy, what world are you living in? There is NO similarity. I completely agree about that sort of thing; when people complain about music, movies and such. What I'm talking about is a user's right to privacy on the system, and in fact, does he/she have any? Censoring email is analogous to having your boss listen to your phone line. I suppose that you wouldn't mind if he/she did that, eh? -Rich -- ------------- rauscher@rutgers.edu RPO 5997 PO 5063, New Brunswick, NJ 08903 rauscher@PISCES Shakespeare learns Discrete Math: {backbone site}!rutgers!rauscher (2B | not (2B)) <=> TRUE