brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) (05/20/91)
This is the best one yet this month; sending mail to 'tonyb@novell.com' results in the mail being returned, but the return mail fails as well, since it gets delivered to the original destination localpart at the SENDER's site. I.e., what you get in your mailbox is a message from Novell's mailer daemon telling you that your own mailer informed them that there is no such user at your site. Mail to root and postmaster gets returned too, of course. I wonder if anybody at Novell has noticed the lack of incoming mail? - Brian
geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) (05/20/91)
novell's news software is broken too; they are one of the major contributors of non-RFC-1036 netnews articles. third strike, any one? -- Geoff Collyer world.std.com!geoff, uunet.uu.net!geoff
emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) (05/20/91)
In article <1991May19.224252.4366@world.std.com> geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:
third strike, any one?
novell.com name servers are goofed up, too, according to doc; their
off-site secondary servers don't return authoritative answers.
--Ed
Doc-2.0.1: Starting test of novell.com. parent is com.
Doc-2.0.1: Test date - Sun May 19 19:33:21 EDT 1991
soa @a.isi.edu. for com. has serial: 910516
######## Query Log ########
## Nameservers for com. (dig ns com.):
a.isi.edu.
aos.brl.mil.
c.nyser.net.
gunter-adam.af.mil.
ns.nasa.gov.
ns.nic.ddn.mil.
terp.umd.edu.
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver a.isi.edu.
;; flags: qr aa
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910516 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
Doc-2.0.1: Starting test of novell.com. parent is com.
Doc-2.0.1: Test date - Sun May 19 19:33:43 EDT 1991
soa @a.isi.edu. for com. has serial: 910516
soa @aos.brl.mil. for com. has serial: 910513
soa @c.nyser.net. for com. has serial: 910516
DIGERR (TIME_OUT): dig @gunter-adam.af.mil. for SOA of parent (com.) failed
soa @ns.nasa.gov. for com. has serial: 910516
soa @ns.nic.ddn.mil. for com. has serial: 910516
soa @terp.umd.edu. for com. has serial: 910516
WARNING: Found 2 unique SOA serial #'s for com.
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @a.isi.edu. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @aos.brl.mil. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @c.nyser.net. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @ns.nasa.gov. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @ns.nic.ddn.mil. (non-AUTH)
Found 4 NS and 4 glue records for novell.com. @terp.umd.edu. (non-AUTH)
DNServers for com.
=== 0 were also authoritatve for novell.com.
=== 6 were non-authoritative for novell.com.
Servers for com. (not also authoritative for novell.com.)
=== agree on NS records for novell.com.
NS list summary for novell.com. from parent (com.) servers
== ccnucb.colorado.edu. novlsun.novell.com. ns.utah.edu.
== xlnvax.excelan.com.
soa @ccnucb.colorado.edu. for novell.com. serial:
ERROR: no SOA record for novell.com. from ccnucb.colorado.edu.
DIGERR (TIME_OUT): dig @novlsun.novell.com. for SOA of novell.com. failed
soa @ns.utah.edu. for novell.com. serial:
ERROR: no SOA record for novell.com. from ns.utah.edu.
soa @xlnvax.excelan.com. for novell.com. serial: 100014
ERROR: NS list from novell.com. authoritative servers does not
=== match NS list from parent (com.) servers
NS list summary for novell.com. from authoritative servers
== mx.novell.com. newsun.novell.com. npd.novell.com.
== prv.novell.com. svl.novell.com. tahiti.novell.com.
ERROR: xlnvax.excelan.com. claims to be authoritative, but does not appear in
NS list from authoritative servers
Checking 2 potential addresses for hosts at novell.com.
== 137.65.4.1 130.57.8.1
in-addr PTR record found for 137.65.4.1
in-addr PTR record found for 130.57.8.1
Summary:
ERRORS found for novell.com. (count: 4)
WARNINGS issued for novell.com. (count: 1)
Incomplete test for novell.com. (1)
Done testing novell.com. Sun May 19 19:34:40 EDT 1991
######## Query Log ########
## Nameservers for com. (dig ns com.):
a.isi.edu.
aos.brl.mil.
c.nyser.net.
gunter-adam.af.mil.
ns.nasa.gov.
ns.nic.ddn.mil.
terp.umd.edu.
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver a.isi.edu.
;; flags: qr aa
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910516 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver aos.brl.mil.
;; flags: qr aa ra
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910513 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver c.nyser.net.
;; flags: qr aa ra
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910516 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver ns.nasa.gov.
;; flags: qr aa ra
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910516 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver ns.nic.ddn.mil.
;; flags: qr aa
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910516 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## SOA record for com. domain from nameserver terp.umd.edu.
;; flags: qr aa ra
com. in soa ns.nic.ddn.mil. hostmaster.nic.ddn.mil. (
910516 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
900 ;retry
604800 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver a.isi.edu.
;; flags: qr ; ques: 1, ans: 0, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; authority records:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu. 172800 in a 128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com. 172800 in a 137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu. 172800 in a 128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com. 172800 in a 130.57.4.1
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver aos.brl.mil.
;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu. 172800 in a 128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com. 172800 in a 137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu. 172800 in a 128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com. 172800 in a 130.57.4.1
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver c.nyser.net.
;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu. 172800 in a 128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com. 172800 in a 137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu. 172800 in a 128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com. 172800 in a 130.57.4.1
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver ns.nasa.gov.
;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu. 172800 in a 128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com. 172800 in a 137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu. 172800 in a 128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com. 172800 in a 130.57.4.1
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver ns.nic.ddn.mil.
;; flags: qr ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu. 172800 in a 128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com. 172800 in a 137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu. 172800 in a 128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com. 172800 in a 130.57.4.1
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver terp.umd.edu.
;; flags: qr ra ; ques: 1, ans: 4, auth: 4, addit: 4
;; answers:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; authority records:
novell.com. 172800 in ns ccnucb.colorado.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns novlsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 172800 in ns ns.utah.edu.
novell.com. 172800 in ns xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; additional records:
ccnucb.colorado.edu. 172800 in a 128.138.238.34
novlsun.novell.com. 172800 in a 137.65.4.1
ns.utah.edu. 172800 in a 128.110.124.120
xlnvax.excelan.com. 172800 in a 130.57.4.1
===================
## SOA record for novell.com. domain from nameserver ccnucb.colorado.edu.
;; flags: qr ra
===================
## SOA record for novell.com. domain from nameserver ns.utah.edu.
;; flags: qr ra
===================
## SOA record for novell.com. domain from nameserver xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; flags: qr aa ra
novell.com. in soa newsun.novell.com. hostmaster.novell.com. (
100014 ;serial
10800 ;refresh
3600 ;retry
3600000 ;expire
86400 ) ;minim
===================
## NS records for novell.com. domain from nameserver xlnvax.excelan.com.
;; flags: qr aa ra ; ques: 1, ans: 6, auth: 0, addit: 7
;; answers:
novell.com. 86400 in ns mx.novell.com.
novell.com. 86400 in ns newsun.novell.com.
novell.com. 86400 in ns npd.novell.com.
novell.com. 86400 in ns prv.novell.com.
novell.com. 86400 in ns svl.novell.com.
novell.com. 86400 in ns tahiti.novell.com.
;; additional records:
mx.novell.com. 86400 in a 130.57.8.1
newsun.novell.com. 86400 in a 130.57.10.190
newsun.novell.com. 86400 in a 130.57.16.1
newsun.novell.com. 86400 in a 130.57.4.1
npd.novell.com. 86400 in a 137.65.12.1
prv.novell.com. 86400 in a 137.65.4.1
svl.novell.com. 120 in a 130.57.133.10
===================
### Queries for nameserver address in-addr.arpa. records
; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> +pfset=0x2738 -x
;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 0, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;; 1.4.65.137.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN
;; ANSWERS:
1.4.65.137.in-addr.arpa. 2940 PTR novlsun.prv.Novell.COM.
; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> +pfset=0x2738 -x
;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 0, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;; 1.8.57.130.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN
;; ANSWERS:
1.8.57.130.in-addr.arpa. 86400 PTR mx.novell.COM.tkevans@fallst.UUCP (Tim Evans) (05/21/91)
In <34206@ucsd.Edu> brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) writes: >I wonder if anybody at Novell has noticed the lack of incoming mail? Does anyone think Novell really cares? After all, they're BIG RED. Why should they be compatible with anyone else? You know, where does a 500-pound gorilla sleep? -- UUCP: {rutgers|ames|uunet}!mimsy!woodb!fallst!tkevans INTERNET: tkevans%fallst@wb3ffv.ampr.org Tim Evans 2201 Brookhaven Ct, Fallston, MD 21047
chip@osh3.OSHA.GOV (Chip Yamasaki) (05/21/91)
In <EMV.91May19194049@poe.aa.ox.com> emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) writes: >In article <1991May19.224252.4366@world.std.com> geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes: > third strike, any one? >novell.com name servers are goofed up, too, according to doc; their >off-site secondary servers don't return authoritative answers. Since news, mial, and name servers are some of the basics of networking does this mean that they don't know much about the subject? -- -- Charles "Chip" Yamasaki chip@oshcomm.osha.gov