[comp.mail.misc] Strange "From" paths

timk@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca (Tim Kuehn) (06/27/91)

### I recently received these two messages in, and while the "received by" 
### sequences look fine, the "From" ! path looks mighty weird. Could someone
### explain to me what causes this? Why would a machine that's only seen 
### a mail message once show up multiple times in the "From: line?

### Thanks in advance!

### The two "From:" lines are: 

From: relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!stratus!uunet!watmath!uunet!stratus!jane@watmath (Jane Beckman)

From: relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!amc-gw!uunet!watmath!amc.com!phyllis@watmath (Phyllis Rostykus)

### The respective message headers (sans "Subject" line) are: 

From xenitec!watmath!relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!stratus!uunet!jane Thu Jun 27 01:25:50 1991
Received: by wynnds.xenitec.on.ca (smail2.5)
	id AA03095; 27 Jun 91 01:25:49 EDT (Thu)
Received: from watmath by xenitec.on.ca id aa01241; 27 Jun 91 0:49 EDT
Received: from relay.cs.toronto.edu by watmath.waterloo.edu with SMTP
	id <AA06548>; Wed, 26 Jun 91 13:49:44 -0400
Received: by relay.cs.toronto.edu with UUCP id <150223>; Wed, 26 Jun 1991 13:49:24 -0400
Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP 
	(5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA24971; Wed, 26 Jun 91 13:28:21 -0400
Received: from stratus.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL
	(queueing-rmail) id 132725.18241; Wed, 26 Jun 1991 13:27:25 EDT
Received: from wombat.swdc.stratus.com (wombat.ARPA) by stratus.swdc.stratus.com (FTX1.1/1.26 Stratus WDC)
	id AA21787; Wed, 26 Jun 91 10:26:17 pst
Received: from soave.swdc.stratus.com by wombat.swdc.stratus.com (4.0/SMI-4.0)
	id AA00817; Wed, 26 Jun 91 10:25:55 PDT
Date: 	Wed, 26 Jun 1991 13:25:55 -0400
From: relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!stratus!uunet!watmath!uunet!stratus!jane@watmath (Jane Beckman)
Message-Id: <9106261725.AA00817@wombat.swdc.stratus.com>
To: watmath!wynnds.xenitec.on.ca!timk@uunet.uucp

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From xenitec!watmath!relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!amc-gw!uunet!phyllis Thu Jun 27 01:25:46 1991
Received: by wynnds.xenitec.on.ca (smail2.5)
	id AA03080; 27 Jun 91 01:25:46 EDT (Thu)
Received: from watmath by xenitec.on.ca id aa00970; 27 Jun 91 0:47 EDT
Received: from relay.cs.toronto.edu by watmath.waterloo.edu with SMTP
	id <AA10463>; Wed, 26 Jun 91 22:39:41 -0400
Received: by relay.cs.toronto.edu with UUCP id <150242>; Wed, 26 Jun 1991 22:39:37 -0400
Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP 
	(5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA15006; Wed, 26 Jun 91 22:36:34 -0400
Received: from amc-gw.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL
	(queueing-rmail) id 223533.21073; Wed, 26 Jun 1991 22:35:33 EDT
Received: from eld by amc-gw.amc.com (5.61/3.1.15/Ultrix-3.0) via SMTP
	id AA27283; Wed, 26 Jun 91 10:58:40 -0700
Return-Path: <phyllis@amc.com>
Received: by eld.amc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1)
	id AA15722; Wed, 26 Jun 91 11:02:56 PDT
Date: 	Wed, 26 Jun 1991 14:02:56 -0400
From: relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!amc-gw!uunet!watmath!amc.com!phyllis@watmath (Phyllis Rostykus)
Message-Id: <9106261802.AA15722@eld.amc.com>
To: watmath!wynnds.xenitec.on.ca!timk@uunet.uucp
Status: ORSr


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bill@camco.Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) (06/30/91)

In <1991Jun27.064806.3789@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca> timk@wynnds.xenitec.on.ca (Tim Kuehn) writes:

:### I recently received these two messages in, and while the "received by" 
:### sequences look fine, the "From" ! path looks mighty weird. Could someone
:### explain to me what causes this? Why would a machine that's only seen 
:### a mail message once show up multiple times in the "From: line?

:### Thanks in advance!

:### The two "From:" lines are: 

:From: relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!stratus!uunet!watmath!uunet!stratus!jane@watmath (Jane Beckman)

:From: relay.cs.toronto.edu!uunet!amc-gw!uunet!watmath!amc.com!phyllis@watmath (Phyllis Rostykus)

:...stuff deleted

This looks like some garbage I've been getting on the Unify
mailing list after it passes through apple.com!

FLAME ON
For some reason they're rewriting perfectly good "From:" lines
into something resembling a "Path:" header from news, breaking
valid FQDNs like "From: Bill Campbell <bill@camco.Celestial.COM>"
into garbage like the above.

Are they running under A/UX or something equally brain-damaged?

The postmaster@apple.com tells me that address like those above a
fine and should be accepted by my mailer :-)
FLAME OFF

Bill
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