[news.groups] Newgroup Proposal: comp.protocols.iso

csg@pyramid.UUCP (06/10/87)

The group comp.protocols.iso seems to be trickling around the net. There have
been running discussions on ISO in at least three groups (comp.protocols.misc,
comp.mail.misc, comp.dcom.lans). Generally the contributions have been of very
high quality. Seems like about time to make comp.protocols.iso a formal group.

The charter would be:

	comp.protocols.iso  Discussion of ISO, MAP, TOP, and CCITT protocols

This would include the whole stack: X.25, X.213, X.214, X.215, X.400, and all
the appropriate ISO and MAP permutations. Discussions on DARPA/ISO gateways
could be cross-posted to comp.protocols.tcp-ip. I suspect that the group would
be especially interesting to European sites. I see no reason to make the group
moderated. 

Send comments to me, both pro and con. I am not interested in "votes" per se,
since they are not very meaningful. I want to know what people are thinking:
why or why not this should become a regular "comp" group, and whether or not
it would be helpful to you in your work. I'll summarize on the net and to the
backbone site admins.

<csg>

mats@forbrk.UUCP (Mats Wichmann) (06/25/87)

In article <15927@gatech.gatech.edu> spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) writes:
>The group comp.std.internat has existed for over 2 years for precisely
>the kind of discussion you are suggesting.  The group has hardly been
>used since its (rather noisy) creation.  I'd suggest you use that for
>ISO discussions.

Gulp! Spaf seems to be chiding those of us who made all the noise about 
comp.std.internat, which, as I recall, he didn't see much need for.
Well, we deserve it.

I have tried a couple of times to stimulate some discussion, but haven't 
gotten much action. Well, I am still interested in the topics (my customers
in France and elsewhere give me no choice), but I am almost resigned
to not getting anything from the net. If anybody is interested in what 
is in System V, Release 3.1, I do have the source code sitting around.
It isn't much, though - the one-page blurb AT&T sends out pretty
much covers it.

X/OPEN seems to have settled on HP's ideas as being the most useful; now
we are trying to track down whether HP is actually pushing a product
to promote as a standard, or whether it is all internal (i.e., available
inside HP products only). Does anybody have further information?

Re: comp.protocols.iso - ISO provides standards for lots of things;
in the context it was mentioned, the potential group should perhaps
be called comp.protocols.osi. I don't fully agree that comp.std.internat
should be used for those discussions, but since *we* aren't using it....

Mats Wichmann