[news.groups] comp.sources.projects

webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) (08/20/87)

In article <7130@e.ms.uky.edu>, brian@ms.uky.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
> ...Further, I have had problems with getting sources posted, I sent in
> a nice set of mods to the recently posted "screen" program about a week
> ago, it has still not made to the "public". "(Its available via anonymous
> ftp to e.ms.uky.edu, though)"

Of course foul ups like this are to be expected (don't worry, just a cheap
shot I couldn't resist before getting to the main topic).

>... Which brings me to comp.sources.wanted, et. al.  Do YOU read this?

Sure, of the (cd ; fgrep : .newsrc | wc) 399 groups whose subject
lines I read in vnews, it is number 18 (I find the topic of sources
interesting, what can I say?).

> I doubt it... I "do", but I read it with my finger very close to the space
> bar... I might have responded to a total of 2 requests... It is not that
> I am not a good sport, and don't want to help people, it is just that
> I (like many) am busy, and thus having advance knowledge that
> comp.sources.wanted does not contain "goodies" for me, I skip through.

Actually the problem is that the scope of the group is too narrow.  I propose
deleting it and creating:

   comp.sources.projects: an unmoderated group dedicated to messages
       concerning the following aspects of producing software for donation:
          a) announcement of interest in finding software for particular tasks
          b) announcement of commencement of new pd software projects    
          c) requests for bug reports in anticipation of new release
          d) announcement of availability of alpha quality software
          e) queries about interest in group programming projects over
             the net.

Such a group would subsume comp.sources.wanted and at the same time be
interesting enough that the software requests would get a broader
hearing.

Comments?

------- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber)

brian@ms.uky.edu (Brian Sturgill) (08/20/87)

In article <329@brandx.rutgers.edu>, webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) writes:
> In article <7130@e.ms.uky.edu>, brian@ms.uky.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
	...
> Actually the problem is that the scope of the group is too narrow.  I propose
> deleting it and creating:
> 
>    comp.sources.projects: an unmoderated group dedicated to messages
>        concerning the following aspects of producing software for donation:
>           a) announcement of interest in finding software for particular tasks
>           b) announcement of commencement of new pd software projects    
>           c) requests for bug reports in anticipation of new release
>           d) announcement of availability of alpha quality software
>           e) queries about interest in group programming projects over
>              the net.
> 
> Such a group would subsume comp.sources.wanted and at the same time be
> interesting enough that the software requests would get a broader
> hearing.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> ------- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber)

I think this might be a good solution.
I am not married to the idea of going back to the 'net.sources' style group,
I just believe the current system is very bad (i.e worse than net.sources).
In addition to the above, it would be nice if a "standard" format for messages
were developed much like that which is done in the bug groups.
Something like:

WANTED | (ALPHA|BETA|release #) AVAILABLE | REQUEST FOR COMMENT

PROJECT
	A one liner saying what the PROJECT being developed/wanted/etc is.

ENVIRONMENT
	The environment under which the program should/will run.

OUTLINE
	I. An outline (in outline form) of the main features.
		A. point A, etc.

Needless to say the above is not a final form, but I think it is much
easier to deal with messages in a standard format... Note that it
is not necessary to enforce the format -- improperly format messages
would probably just be ignored by most people.

Brian

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