webber@athos.rutgers.edu (Bob Webber) (03/06/88)
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After rereading a whole lot of news.groups messages, ending with:
From: heiby@falkor.UUCP (Ron Heiby) Message-ID: <142@falkor.UUCP>
...
(Now I have to live in fear that some moron starts taking a vote on
the creation of misc.silly.putty or, even worse, sci.silly.putty and
the whole net blames me. Oh, the nightmares!)
I have finally figured out what group is in desparate need of creation.
It has been noted that talk.bizarre has become mundane.
It has been noted that soc.sex waves a red flag at the bean counters.
It has been noted that junk food is not the soul of cyberpunk.
It has been noted that we lack sci.silly.putty.
How can we solve all of these problems. Clearly what is needed is an
inconspicuous group for people who know what the group is about to
post and yet whose name is such that it won't draw postings (or
attention) from the beancounter mentality.
I propose the unmoderated group:
comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac
If you don't know what should be posted to such a group, don't worry
-- it's just some obscure high tech stuff. If you think this posting
is some kind of joke, fine -- enjoy -- and just for the heck of it:
send me a YES vote. If you understand the true meaning of this group
proposal, I look forward to collecting your YES vote. If you are on
some site that just can't support one more group, then go ahead and
send your NO vote (everyone will sympathize and perhaps someone will
even donate a machine to you so you will have room). DO NOT POST VOTES
TO NEWS GROUPS. SUCH VOTES DO NOT COUNT IN THE TOTALS PRESENTED TO
THE BACKBONE. Send your votes by email to:
webber@aramis.rutgers.edu
rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber
[rutgers is a backbone site, so if you can reach any backbone, getting the
path to reach rutgers is no problem -- if you have difficulties, check with
your local sysadmin or the nearest usenet site that has a mail wizard.
don't expect to be able to rely on the reply command in your news
program -- many things about mail on usenet have changed since it was written.]
The voting starts now: which my machine says is
Sun Mar 6 07:30:41 EST 1988
According to the backbone rules, the vote will end:
Wed Apr 6 07:30:41 EST 1988
Since it is unclear what the significance of votes mailed before this time
but recieved after it is, I urge you to vote in favour of this group
as soon as you can see your way free to.
---- BOB (webber@athos.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!athos.rutgers.edu!webber)ralphw@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU (Ralph Hyre) (04/05/88)
Well, such a group (for interesting stuff) already exists in the Internet side
of things. It's called INFO-COBOL. Why not create comp.lang.cobol on the
USENET side (which would be even better from a bean-counter-point of view,
plus have some kind of correspondence with with already existing list.)
Some enterprising soul could set up a one-way link between the groups if
necessary (since I doubt the Internetters would want to put up with the
trash from the USENET side, and the USENET types probably wouldn't put up
with 'moderation' anyway.)
Here's a copy of the mail I sent... I wonder how many header-parsing
programs and news systems it will break?
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 88 18:42:38 EDT
From: Ralph.Hyre@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU
To: webber@ARAMIS.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject: NO for comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac
It might be acceptable if the name were changed to comp.lang.cobol,
since there's an info-cobol (hack) mailing list in the Internet
which could be fed into comp.lang.cobol.
Thanks.
- Ralph
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