[news.groups] Reflections on the creation of comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac

allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Phil Smith) (04/30/88)

As quoted from <Apr.20.07.22.34.1988.20000@constance.rutgers.edu> by webber@constance.rutgers.edu (Bob Webber):
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| In article <3880@medusa.cs.purdue.edu>, spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) writes:
| > Likewise with nonsense or frivolous groups like the eniac.tcp (or
| > whatever) group that Mr. Webber has been making noises about.  No doubt
> ...
| > against.  Either way, it is an obvious attempt to create a "bizarre"
| > group in the comp distribution -- something that a number of sites have
| > already indicated they won't carry.  
| 
| enough to have settled the matter had that been their wish.  Their inaction
| demonstrates quite pointedly that they are not exceptionally worried about
| the impact of comp.protocols.tcp-ip.eniac on their 2+ megabyte a day news
| flow (assuming that they carry a reasonable portion of the net).
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Ahem.  Bob, you seem to be assuming that if it is voted for, we're all forced
to carry it.  However, I assure you that it won't reach ncoast via any of our
newsfeeds or be passed to any of our "dependent" sites.

Votes or no, the individual sysadmins decide what will be carried.  Spaf's
declaration on tcp.eniac is simply that a majority of *backbone* admins have
stated that they will not carry it:  therefore, even if created it won't go
anywhere, so there's no point in creating it.  If this upsets you, I advise
you to reflect on the fact that NO single person or small group can control
the entire Usenet, whether it be Webber or the soi-disant "backbone cabal".
Thus, you can't force us to carry tcp.eniac even if it's created... but you
can at least avoid the backbone if you choose to, by going "alt".

Face the music, Bob:  the backbone admins won't carry it, so creating it would
be an empty gesture.  That's the way the world works; throwing a temper tantrum
on the net won't help (in fact, it probably hurts your cause).
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