[news.groups] Anybody home in comp.sources.mac?

gz@spt.entity.com (Gail Zacharias) (05/08/88)

I recently tried posting something to comp.sources.mac only to have it
automagically mailed off to some moderator, never to be heard of again.  I
don't know whether it never made there (although I never got any mailer
barfage), or whether a moderator is still pondering its news-worthiness. Is
there any real reason for comp.sources.mac to be moderated?  At the risk of
understatement, I can confidently say that volume would not be a problem.
It's a little hard to try and develop the 'sources habit' in the macintosh
community when source postings get unnecessarily delayed or go off into a
black hole.  I'd rather live with an occasional inappropriate posting.  I've
had quite a few mail requests for the sources since I announced them, so the
interest in sources is there, but most of the mail oozed with doubts about the
reality of comp.sources.mac.

I'd like to propose that comp.sources.mac become unmoderated.  What is the
procedure for making that happen?  I'd be willing to take a vote, although I'd
rather not.  At least I'd like to hear some confirmation from the backbone, or
whoever handles such things, that a vote is what's required, before making
hundreds of mailers jump through the hoops about this...

Alternately, maybe we can all simply agree that sources are appropriate
comp.sys.mac.programmer fodder and avoid comp.sources.mac altogether?

Followups have been directed to news.groups.

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Ilan@cup.portal.com (05/10/88)

I second Gail's motion to UNMODERATE comp.sources.mac. The group as it
currently stands is a poor excuse for a group.  If the moderation is
the problem we should find out about it as soon a possible.  If on the
otherhand its a low rate of posting then possibly the group should be
eliminated altogether.  As it stands now the group sits there pretty
much unused.

                - Ilan Rabinowitz -   with ILANET(tm)
                Ilan@cup.portal.com

bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com (Roger L. Long) (05/10/88)

In article <299@spt.entity.com> Gail Zacharias (gz@spt.entity.com) writes:
>I recently tried posting something to comp.sources.mac only to have it
>automagically mailed off to some moderator, never to be heard of again.  I
>don't know whether it never made there (although I never got any mailer
>barfage), or whether a moderator is still pondering its news-worthiness.

Since my mail evidently didn't reach you, I'll respond this way.

I mailed to you a note saying that your posting was being held until you 
could supply a machine readable version, since your experiment in posting
non-ascii characters in the makefile didn't work.  I indicated that if you
didn't want to post the makefile, that I could simply remove it from the
shar archive and post the rest of the source.

I've been waiting for your reply.

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wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu (Pierce T. Wetter) (05/12/88)

In article <5250@cup.portal.com> Ilan@cup.portal.com writes:
>I second Gail's motion to UNMODERATE comp.sources.mac. The group as it
>currently stands is a poor excuse for a group.  If the moderation is
>the problem we should find out about it as soon a possible.  If on the
>otherhand its a low rate of posting then possibly the group should be
>eliminated altogether.  As it stands now the group sits there pretty
>much unused.

   I think there are two reasons for this. First, when people include source
 they often packit together with the binary, so the entire thing gets posted
 as a binary. Occasionally, someone like me, sends the moderator two files, one
of the binary versions and one of the source version.
 The Second reason, is that the net.gods probably expect xxx.sources groups
to be in ascii text, not Binhex. Binhexed sources probably end up on binaries
while shared sources end up on sources.
  Pierce Wetter
   I third the motion to unmoderate.

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sls@dukempd.UUCP (Shelley Shostak) (05/13/88)

In article <6502@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Pierce T. Wetter) writes:
>In article <5250@cup.portal.com> Ilan@cup.portal.com writes:
>>I second Gail's motion to UNMODERATE comp.sources.mac. The group as it
>>currently stands is a poor excuse for a group.  If the moderation is
>
>   I third the motion to unmoderate.
>

I disagree with the idea of unmoderating comp.sources.mac.

   If unmoderated, the quality of sources will go down. I assume that the
   moderator compiles and runs the sources he receives, just as the moderator
   of comp.binaries.mac tries to run the binaries he receives. I don't think
   I'd waste my time downloading any source unless it was posted by someone
   whose reputation has been established in somp.sys.mac. I would like to
   see GOOD WORKING examples of sources, not just ANY examples.
 
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