[news.groups] Newsgroup vote: comp.andrew

nsb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nathaniel Borenstein) (02/10/89)

I would like to propose the creation of a new newsgroup, comp.andrew, for
discussion of the software produced by the Andrew project at the Information
Technology Center (ITC) in Pittsburgh.

The ITC, a joint venture of IBM and Carnegie Mellon University, has produced
several large pieces of software, including the Andrew File System, Andrew
Message System, Andrew Tool Kit, and an ODA Tool Kit.  Most of these pieces are
freely available, and all of them are in growing use at a widely dispersed
number of sites.  We have received an increasing number of requests to create a
newsgroup for discussion of the Andrew software.

Because most people are familiar with Andrew as the Andrew Tool Kit and Message
System running under the X11 window manager, many have proposed that the new
group be called comp.windows.x.andrew.   However, all of Andrew, even the user
interface component, is window system independent (the Tool Kit and Message
System run on several window systems, of which X11 is just one).  Moreover, it
is inappropriate to confine discussion of something like the Andrew File System
to a subgroup of comp.windows.x.  Therefore we propose that the new group be
called simply comp.andrew.

In order to create this group, we need for the various Andrew user communities
to speak up by voting in favor of its creation.

Please send all yes votes to nsb+yes@andrew.cmu.edu.

Please send all no votes to nsb+no@andrew.cmu.edu.

Incidentally, I will be using something called FLAMES (the Filtering Language
for the Andrew MEssage System) to correlate and tabulate these votes nearly
automatically.  If you're curious how this works, you should vote YES and then
ask for more information once the newsgroup is created.  :-)

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                   Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
                       Manager, Andrew Applications Group
                          Information Technology Center
                           Carnegie-Mellon University
                              Pittsburgh, PA 15213
  [An Andrew ToolKit view (a raster image) was included here, but could not be
                                   displayed.]

emv@a.cc.umich.edu (Ed Vielmetti) (02/10/89)

For point of reference, it's usual to put new newsgroups into an existing
place in the hierarchy.  Reasonable groups might be comp.windows.andrew
(andrew tool kit) & comp.protocols.afs (andrew file system, by analogy
with comp.protocols.nfs).

My inclination would be to spout the usual "start a mailing list first"
routine, especially if there isn't one yet.

--Ed