gwyn@BRL-VLD.ARPA (06/18/84)
From: Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) <gwyn@BRL-VLD.ARPA> By "rm *" the authors meant an actual asterisk character. However, this example was meant to illustrate the pitfalls of a naive user interface. This example makes sense in the context of the original article, which you should read rather than guess about.
jer%vanderbilt.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA (06/18/84)
From: Eric Roskos <jer%vanderbilt.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA> In Ygal Arens and Martin R. Lyons' recent comments on a June CACM article about the Unix Consultant system, it is my impression that the original article may be misinterpreting the message given by the hypothetical program NI. The present debate centers around the fact that when a user tells the con- sultant system "I need some more file space," the program replies "type rm *". What this really reflects is one of the fundamental problems with natural language recognition: even human beings have problems with the ambiguity of the language. Suppose I were writing a reference manual for some hypo- thetical Unix utility, and I wrote The spooler's temporary files are named [lcd]f[ABC]splfile. Would you think the name of the file was "[lcd]f[ABC]splfile"? What I meant to say was that the files may be named lfAsplfile cfAsplfile cfBsplfile etc. (In fact, maybe I meant "splfile" to be replaced by some other string which is not expressible in the language I am trying to use, as well.) My point is that I think the message "type rm *" meant "type rm followed by some valid filename". Of course, this does not free the program from blame; the naive user could make the same mistake the naive language recog- niser is accused of making, and type the string literally, deleting everything in his directory (unless the directory was so big he ran out of space to expand the * prior to invoking rm, of course). Where human beings recover from this error is either by prompting for clar- ification ("You don't seriously mean for me to use a *, do you?") or, and this is indeed a possibility, by observing the user start to delete his entire directory and shouting "WAIT! Don't do that, I meant...". However, since the article speaks in terms of a hypothetical language NI, it is not clear whether the author accidentally used a notation that produced this interesting ambiguity, or whether some actual program was misinterpreted as doing so. -- J. Eric Roskos Vanderbilt University
mats@dual.UUCP (Mats Wichmann) (06/27/84)
Just a quick note to avoid further confusion - the name of the program is `UC', which *stands* for UNIX Consultant. UNIX Consultant is not the actual name. There is a company (Elite Corp.) that makes a couple of UNIX System boxes named Consultant I and Consultant II (one is 16032-based, the other has a 32032). They probably have the name trademarked, although who knows.. Mats Wichmann Dual Systems Corp. ...{ucbvax,amd70,ihnp4,cbosgd,decwrl,fortune}!dual!mats