[news.groups] CALL FOR VOTES -- Creation of a SCI.GEO newsgroup.

dmark@cs.Buffalo.EDU (David Mark) (05/20/89)

In article <1849@leah.Albany.Edu> ss6349@leah.albany.edu.UUCP (Steven H Schimmrich) writes:
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>		   What is SCI.GEO and why is it needed?
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>   SCI.GEO  is the proposed name for an unmoderated newsgroup to discuss the
>earth and planetary sciences.  There currently does not exist any  newsgroup
>for  the  discussion  of  geology,  paleontology,  geophysics,  planetology,
>meteorology, climatology, etc.  except  where  they  might  fit  into  other
>newsgroups  such  as  SCI.BIO,  SCI.ASTRO, SCI.CHEM, SCI.PHYSICS, SCI.SPACE,
>etc. There are  no  SCI  newsgroups  dealing  specifically  with  the  earth
>sciences  and  this  one  would  fill that gap. ...
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>                 ...  Don't bother suggesting new names for  the  newsgroup,
>that  stage  has  passed. It will be named SCI.GEO or it will not be created
>(at least through my efforts).

I sent my "official" vote directly, but decided also to post this follow-up
in case anyone feels the way I do, and may wish to vote similarly.

==========================copy of my "vote" and reason below==================

I hereby vote "NO" on sci.geo, strictly because of the name.

Since your recent posting took the hard line "Don't bother suggesting new
names... It will be named SCI.GEO or it will not be created", I am forced to
vote "No", because GEO is also the first 3 letters of a major discipline,
GEOgraphy, which is primarliy concerned with the Social Sciences, and the
links between humans and environments.  And let's not forget an even older
discipline, GEOmetry, a branch of mathematiccs.  Since GEOgraphy itself might 
easily deserve a newsgroup, to say nothing of GEOmetry, I feel that establish-
ment of a group, un-negotiably named SCI.GEO, yet restricted to Earth Sciences,
would lead to confusion and ambiguity, and should not be done.

I would have voted "YES" for SCI.GEOLOGY, or SCI.EARTH_SCIENCE, and will do so,
if this attempt fails, and if you try again with a more appropriate name.

David Mark
Professor
Department of GEOgraphy
SUNY at Buffalo

dmark@cs.buffalo.edu

steve@revolver.gatech.edu (Poppa Smurf) (05/22/89)

In article <5983@cs.Buffalo.EDU+ dmark@sunybcs.UUCP (David Mark) writes:
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+I hereby vote "NO" on sci.geo, strictly because of the name.
+
+Since your recent posting took the hard line "Don't bother suggesting new
+names... It will be named SCI.GEO or it will not be created", I am forced to
+vote "No", because GEO is also the first 3 letters of a major discipline,
+GEOgraphy, which is primarliy concerned with the Social Sciences, and the
+links between humans and environments.  And let's not forget an even older
+discipline, GEOmetry, a branch of mathematiccs.  Since GEOgraphy itself might 
+I would have voted "YES" for SCI.GEOLOGY, or SCI.EARTH_SCIENCE, and will do so,
+if this attempt fails, and if you try again with a more appropriate name.
+
+David Mark
+Professor
+Department of GEOgraphy
+SUNY at Buffalo
+
+dmark@cs.buffalo.edu

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I agree, and I see no "Earthly" reason why you can't simply name it sci.geology.I hope it's not simply ego involvement in having come up with the original name.If you name it sci.geology then I vote "YES."

Steve Fischer (School of Geosciences) 
Georgia Tech

ss6349@leah.Albany.Edu (Steven H Schimmrich) (05/22/89)

In article <8291@pyr.gatech.EDU> steve@revolver.gatech.edu (Poppa Smurf) 
writes:

> I agree, and I see no "Earthly" reason why you can't simply name it 
> sci.geology.I hope it's not simply ego involvement in having come up 
> with the original name.If you name it sci.geology then I vote "YES."
>
> Steve Fischer (School of Geosciences) 
> Georgia Tech

   The  original  name  I suggested (article <1775@leah.Albany.Edu>) was
SCI.EARTH. As I said before -- I could care less  what  it's  called.  I
just want to see the newsgroup come into existence (and if you're in the
school of geosciences, I can't see why you should possibly oppose it for
such  a  minor detail as whether it's GEO or GEOLOGY!). SCI.GEO was what
most everyone wanted during the discussion period (some of whom are  NOT
geologists,  but  people interested in other areas of the earth sciences
such as oceanography, meteorology, etc.). Now  it's  time  to  vote,  it
can't  be  named  SCI.GEOLOGY (except if the voting goes against SCI.GEO
and someone else takes the thankless job of doing this).  As  I've  said
before  --  there  does  not  exist  a  single  name  which would please
everyone. The group is what is important, not its name.

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