jamin@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Sugih Jamin) (08/16/89)
Hello, Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? Like: comp.sources.os2, comp.binaries.os2, comp.sys.os2, comp.windows.pm. Also, is there any archive for os/2 like simtel20, isi, or sumex? Thanks. sugih
michelbi@oregon.uoregon.edu (Michel Biedermann) (08/16/89)
In article <30669@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, jamin@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Sugih Jamin) > Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or > several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? Like: > comp.sources.os2, > comp.binaries.os2, > comp.sys.os2, > comp.windows.pm. I would second the motion that we create an the above OS/2 newsgroups. Michel Biedermann michelbi@oregon.uoregon.edu U. of Oregon
sue@gtx.com (Sue Miller) (08/17/89)
In some article Sugih Jamin writes: - -Hello, - -Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or -several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? Like: - - comp.sources.os2, - comp.binaries.os2, - comp.sys.os2, - comp.windows.pm. - -Also, is there any archive for os/2 like simtel20, isi, or sumex? I am also extremely interested in the above topics, and would really like to see a newsgroup or two dedicated to them. I just installed OS/2 1.1 on my '386 at work and have been killing myself trying to rewrite our Windows/386 code (many megabytes worth) to PM, and would greatly appreciate having other PM/OS/2 folks to help me out! It would help if I had had any MS Windows experience before attempting this port, but that's life... Any other OS/2-PM'rs out there? -- listen: there's a hell of a good universe next door; let's go. __________________________________ ee cummings |Sue Miller ...!sun!sunburn!gtx!sue|
rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Kai-Uwe Rommel) (08/18/89)
In article <6590@oregon.uoregon.edu> michelbi@oregon.uoregon.edu (Michel Biedermann) writes: >> Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or >> several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? Like: >> comp.sources.os2, >> comp.binaries.os2, >> comp.sys.os2, >> comp.windows.pm. >I would second the motion that we create an the above OS/2 newsgroups. >Michel Biedermann michelbi@oregon.uoregon.edu >U. of Oregon I am interested in newsgroups for OS/2 (and Pres. Manager) too ! Kai Uwe Rommel Technische Universitaet Muenchen Western Germany
alexew@watdcsu.waterloo.edu (A.E.Wielhouwer - Computing Services) (08/18/89)
In article <1133@gtx.com> sue@gtx.UUCP (Sue Miller) writes: >- >-Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or >-several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? Like: >- >- comp.sources.os2, >- comp.binaries.os2, >- comp.sys.os2, >- comp.windows.pm. >- ... >I am also extremely interested in the above topics, and would really >like to see a newsgroup or two dedicated to them. .... Me too!
mguyott@mirror.UUCP (Marc Guyott) (08/19/89)
In article <1133@gtx.com> sue@gtx.UUCP (Sue Miller) writes: >In some article Sugih Jamin writes: >>Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or >>several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? > >I am also extremely interested in the above topics, and would really >like to see a newsgroup or two dedicated to them. I have not seen any discussion of PM issues in either comp.windows.ms or comp.windows.misc. The usual procedure is to generate discussion in a related news group (i.e. comp.windows.misc or comp.windows.ms) and when the volume of this discussion becomes sufficient you then propose the creation of the new group. It doesn't always work this way but that is the way it is supposed to work. Marc ---- "All my life I always wanted to BE somebody. I see now I should have been more specific." Jane Wagner Marc Guyott mguyott@mirror.TMC.COM {mit-eddie, pyramid, harvard!wjh12, xait, datacube}!mirror!mguyott Mirror Systems Cambridge, MA 02140 617/661-0777
bobf@lotus.UUCP (Bob Frankston ) (08/19/89)
Another vote for an OS/2 discussion group.
kipnis@janus.uucp (Gary Kipnis) (08/19/89)
In article <225@lotus.UUCP> bobf@lotus.UUCP (Bob Frankston ) writes: > >Another vote for an OS/2 discussion group. stop cluttering the net with 'me too' messages, whoever is in charge of creating new newsgroups probably doesn't read this newsgroup. If someone outthere knows how to start up a new newsgroup, please let us all know thanks gary
g-tookey@rocky.cs.wisc.edu. (Keith Tookey) (08/20/89)
In article <30746@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> kipnis@janus.UUCP (Gary Kipnis) writes: >In article <225@lotus.UUCP> bobf@lotus.UUCP (Bob Frankston ) writes: >> >>Another vote for an OS/2 discussion group. > >stop cluttering the net with 'me too' messages, whoever is in charge of >creating new newsgroups probably doesn't read this newsgroup. > >If someone outthere knows how to start up a new newsgroup, please let us all >know Try reading some of the news.* groups (e.g. news.groups). Rick Please send e-mail to: schaut@madnix.UUCP ArpaNet: madnix!schaut@cs.wisc.edu UseNet: ...uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!schaut {decvax!att}! I am posting this through a friend's account. His consent to my use of his account in no way implies his consent to responsibility for the opinions expressed herein.
mguyott@mirror.UUCP (Marc Guyott) (08/21/89)
I want to preface this by saying that I was told today that I went
about attempting to create a new newsgroup in an incorrect manner. I was
told to check all of the news.* groups to find out what the correct way to
create a new newsgroup is.
That aside, here is what I did. First I made a call for discussion in
news.groups and in any other newsgroups where I felt interested people
might live (in my case that was in comp.sys.ibm.pc and comp.windows.misc).
You wait for the discussion to die out (usually 2-4 weeks) and then you
post a summary of the discussion. This discussion should occur in news.groups
not in any of the other groups.
After (or along with) posting the summary of the discussion you post a call
for votes. In order for the group to be created you have to receive 100 more
YES votes than NO votes. For each vote you recieve you have to keep the From:
line and the vote (yes or no). I also posted 2 followups. One after 1 1/2
weeks had elapsed and one after 3 weeks had elapsed. These helped to remind
people to vote, I recommend doing this. Finally, you should post the final
results to news.admin, news.groups, and any other groups you feel are
appropriate.
If you get enough votes than you talk to your system administrator about
sending an "intent to create a new newsgroup" message to other/as many sys
admins as possible. This message should include the actual list of votes.
After waiting for any responses from the other sys admins (about 1 week) your
sys admin should send out the "new group" message to the entire network.
Actually, I am not sure if posting to news.admin has the same effect as
sending the "intent" messages. It probably does.
Remember, this is what I did but I am not sure that it was correct.
I have 6 files that I will send to anyone that requests them. One file was
given to me as a good example of a posting to create a newsgroup. It seems to
contain information about both calling for discussion and calling for votes so
I took it apart and used the pieces that I felt were appropriate.
The second file is an example of the count of votes you
would collect so that you can see what information has to be saved.
The third file is what I posted as the summary of discussion.
The fourth file is what I posted for my 2 updates.
The fifth file is what I posted as the final vote count/final results.
And the sixth file is the file I used to make the initial posting
to the news group. As the creator of the news group you should post an
initial message once the group has been created.
Good luck and feel free to ask me about any other questions you have. If you
find out any more about what is the right way to do this I would appreciate
hearing from you.
Marc
----
"All my life I always wanted to BE somebody.
I see now I should have been more specific."
Jane Wagner
Marc Guyott mguyott@mirror.TMC.COM
{mit-eddie, pyramid, harvard!wjh12, xait, datacube}!mirror!mguyott
Mirror Systems Cambridge, MA 02140 617/661-0777jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) (08/25/89)
I think it's high-time the OS/2 factions were introducted to this network. Another vote for OS/2 newsgroups. -- "I'm an anthropologist, not a computer systems architect, damit!" jdm@hodge.cts.com [uunet zardoz crash]!hodge!jdm James D. Murray, Ethnounixologist TEL: (714) 998-7750 Ext. 129 Hodge Computer Research Corporation FAX: (714) 921-8038 1588 North Batavia Street Orange, California 92667 USA
kluge@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Oliver Kluge) (08/27/89)
In article <6590@oregon.uoregon.edu> michelbi@oregon.uoregon.edu (Michel Biedermann) writes: >In article <30669@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, jamin@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Sugih Jamin) >> Does anybody know if we are going to have a newsgroup (or >> several newsgroups) on os/2 and presentation manager? Like: >> comp.sources.os2, >> comp.binaries.os2, >> comp.sys.os2, >> comp.windows.pm. > >I would second the motion that we create an the above OS/2 newsgroups. > >Michel Biedermann michelbi@oregon.uoregon.edu >U. of Oregon Yes, I also think we should create these. There really is much to write about :-) Oliver Kluge -- / relay.cs.net (CS-NET, ARPA) kluge%lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de@ - unido.uucp (UUCP) \ unido.bitnet (BITNET) TTTTTTUU MUMMMMMMMM Technical University Munich TTTTTTUU UMMMMMMMMM Department of Mathematics and Computer Sciences SAB TT UU MU MM MM Laboratory for Parallel Computing TT UU UM MM MM Arcisstrasse 21 TT UU MU MM MM 8000-Munich 2 TT UUUUUM MM MM Federal Republic of Germany TT UUUUMU MM MM Vc +49 89 2105-2028, Fax +49 89 2800529 "Why stop now just when I'm hating it?" Marvin, the paranoid android / relay.cs.net (CS-NET, ARPA) kluge%lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de@ - unido.uucp (UUCP) \ unido.bitnet (BITNET) TTTTTTUU MUMMMMMMMM Technical University Munich
wayne@dsndata.uucp (Wayne Schlitt) (08/30/89)
In article <21644@hodge.UUCP> jdm@hodge.UUCP (jdm) writes: > > I think it's high-time the OS/2 factions were introducted to > this network. Another vote for OS/2 newsgroups. this comment, and those people who have said that there should be a group for os/2 because they want to see more things posted about os/2 have things backwards. creating a news group for os/2 will not be introducing the os/2 factions to the net, it will be introducing the net to the os/2 factions that _are_already_on_ the net. articles will not be posted into a group just because the group exists. if there isnt much discussion in comp.sys.ibm.pc, comp.windows.ms, and comp.os.misc about os/2, then there probably wont be much discussion in comp.os.os2 either. (no, i dont read comp.sys.ibm.pc or comp.windows.ms so i have no idea if there is much discussion about os/2 or not. i just wanted to point out that these arguments are backwards.) as a good starting point, i would recommend only one os/2 group and if/when the volume gets too high, split it. creating 5 or 6 groups right from the start is probably out of line. -wayne