[news.groups] rec.swl --> rec.dx-radio ? rec.broadcast-dx?

rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) (09/22/89)

In article <776@chyde.uwasa.fi> fk00133r@chyde.uwasa.fi (Jari Perkiomaki FKR) writes:
       I feel rec.radio.dx would be a great name for this newsgroup, and
       [.....]
       Perhaps the term dx with radio may not be self-explanatory, but why 
       should it be if there is no other concise way of expressing the thing.
       However, I think it is a term which is given a certain meaning and which 
       is generally accepted by the hobbyists. 



Right, it's hopeless to try and come up with a succinct name that
would be meaningful to people who don't already know about the hobby.
But maybe 'rec.swl' is a little too succinct.  I would go for
 
  rec.broadcast-dx
  rec.radio-dx
  rec.dx-broadcast
  rec.dx-radio

Personal favorite is the first: rec.broadcast-dx.  Is this agreeable?
Any of the other three are fine with me as well. I'd like to settle
the naming issue if we can.

cook@pinocchio.Encore.COM (Dale C. Cook) (09/22/89)

[rshapiro@BBN.COM (Richard Shapiro) recently posted that: 
|
|Right, it's hopeless to try and come up with a succinct name that
|would be meaningful to people who don't already know about the hobby.

Agreed!

|But maybe 'rec.swl' is a little too succinct.  I would go for
| 
|  rec.broadcast-dx
|  rec.radio-dx
|  rec.dx-broadcast
|  rec.dx-radio
|
|Personal favorite is the first: rec.broadcast-dx.  Is this agreeable?
|Any of the other three are fine with me as well. I'd like to settle
|the naming issue if we can.

Well, since you asked...  I *really* don't like groups with hyphens
in them.  Swl has been (justifiably) attacked as being only a subset
of what's included.  How about just rec.dx?

Now I know that the term dx is not in general useage, but so what?
My experience is that people look at the master files maintained by
Spaff when making up their initial .newsrc.  So long as the group's
purpose is clearly spelled out in the proper place in the list, the
curious novice will be able to try us out.  Serious DX'ers will have
no trouble signing up immediately!

Again, I feel embarrassed of my fellow hams.  I suspect if someone
were to count the house, they would find that swl's greatly outnumber
hams worldwide.  And, yes, they do NOT need to "grow" into hamdom!

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rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) (09/22/89)

In article <9993@multimax.Encore.COM> cook@encore.com writes:
>How about just rec.dx?



Before we get too carried away by names with "dx" in them (as opposed
to the original "rec.swl"), it's worth remembering that this group
would also include articles on shortwave *programs*, even if they come
from stations which aren't noteworthy dx "catches".  Anybody with any
kind of shortwave radio can listen to the BBC -- that would never be
called dx'ing.  But I would definitely like to see articles about
interesting BBC (world service) programs.  This is one of the weakest
aspects (from an swl point of view) of rec.ham-radio.

I take it that we're all agreed on the charter of this proposed group:
shortwave programs & schedules, shortwave broadcast-band dx, mw dx,
vhf/tv dx, scanners & scanning. It's just the name that's uncertain,
correct? I'm beginning to think we should be less fussy about getting
the "perfect" name and just pick the one that's the least problematic.
Since the charter is mostly about broadcast-band radio & tv, I still
like rec.broadcast-dx (the "dx" is there, but not overly emphasized).

s_dowman@leaf.enet.dec.com (Steve Dowman) (09/22/89)

   My vote is for rec.radio.dx.  It encompasses all the radio bands
   (MW,LW,SW,VHF,UHF) and that the interest is in dx'ing the radio
   in general. I personally would like to read what dx signals people
   are picking up on all the bands.
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cook@pinocchio.Encore.COM (Dale C. Cook) (09/23/89)

[rshapiro@BBN.COM (Richard Shapiro) recently posted that: 
|
|Before we get too carried away by names with "dx" in them (as opposed
|to the original "rec.swl"), it's worth remembering that this group
|would also include articles on shortwave *programs*, even if they come
|from stations which aren't noteworthy dx "catches".  Anybody with any
|kind of shortwave radio can listen to the BBC -- that would never be
|called dx'ing.  But I would definitely like to see articles about
|interesting BBC (world service) programs.  This is one of the weakest
|aspects (from an swl point of view) of rec.ham-radio.
|
I find this argument so strong I'm now in favor of going back
to Richard's original proposal: rec.swl.  Can't we all live
with that?  We can use other means to promote the group (such
as an occasional post to rec.ham-radio etc.)
        - Dale (N1US)   Encore Computer Corporation, Marlborough, Mass.
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brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) (09/23/89)

If you must have a separate group, call is 'rec.shortwave'.