[news.groups] News software

bryce@eris.berkeley.edu (Bryce Nesbitt) (03/03/88)

In article <> farren@gethen.UUCP (Michael J. Farren) writes:
>
>I am going to urge a NO vote on comp.binaries.hypercard.  My reasons?
>Basically, two.  First, the volume...
>...Second, the limited applicability of this...
>
>If you take this as a condemnation of binary groups in general, you're
>probably right.

It would be very intersting to see how many times computer-specific
binary messages are actually downloaded by someone.*  I strongly suspect
is is often a much smaller number than the magic "100 message - mail vs.
net breakeven point".

Perhaphs what is needed is a demand based system.**  A reader sees a
*full* description of the binary, and presses a key that means
"I want a copy".  This message is stored by rn, and transmitted
upstream next time news is processed.***  The delay is unimportant
for most binaries, (especially long binaries).****


* Yes, I am aware how impossible this would be under the current system.
** Yes I know that it would be much work to add.  Also I know, but do
not like, the fact that not all sites run the same software, and that
may sites run old software.  (-: I'll bet more would upgrade if the new
system was made incompatible :-).
*** A backchannel would be great for reader-based "ratings" on the 
quality of articles.
**** Yes, there is justification for this.  The only urgent binaries
are likely to be patches.  Patches are usually small.

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tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) (10/04/89)

In <1989Sep30.050659.21928@alembic.acs.com> csu@alembic.acs.com (Dave Mack):
DM> Wrong, at least in news2.11 and C news. If an article is received with 
DM> no valid news groups, it goes into junk and isn't broadcast to neighboring
DM> sites, regardless of the Distribution field. NNTP may behave differently.

NNTP doesn't behave differently because it doesn't behave on that
level at all.  NNTP is just a transport mechanism; it interacts with
the existing "News Overlord Software" which makes the real decisions
about where to put articles and to whom to forward them.

Just trying to clear up a misunderstanding before it spreads too far.
Follow-ups to news.software.b which has become a general news.software
group.  Perhaps it is time to really change the name.

Dave
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